2y ago

Stop Doing Discord

Repost from @technomancy@icosahedron.website

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Stop doing Discord
capitalists were not supposed to own your community
Years of hanging out yet no real-world use found for sending your private data to be sold to advertisers
Wanted to leak private data anyway for a laugh? We had a tool for that; it was called "turning off ublock origin"
"Yes please search our chat archive for answers to your question. it will certainly remain up forever and not get deleted when the shareholders realize it's not profitable" statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged
Look at what discord admins have been demanding your respect for all this time:
task manager screenshot, discord using 97% of CPU
discord making too many automated requests and getting throttled
crash screenshot
"3rd-party client? lifetime ban"
They have played us for absolute fools

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Discord is easily accessible text/image and voice chat that just works for the majority. If you want people to switch off it then you're going to need Matrix to catch up in basic features and accessibility at the very least.
- I mean honestly has matrix not caught up? It's been perfectly usable and honestly more responsive than discord so far. The only real pain point was the most baseline effort that goes into e2e encryption but even then that wasn't really.. difficult?
  
  Does it have voice chat built in and is it as easy to use and accessible as Discord?
  Last time I looked this was not the case. No point lecturing people until Matrix or a viable alternative catches up at least.
Hey, those are supposed to be sarcastic!
Discord is Gen Z Facebook now. I want to leave it so bad but at this point I would miss 95% of my friends(both online and irl), plus the communities that are not tech savvy enough to build a Matrix bridge.
Let's be real here for a second: Companies are NEVER your friend. NEVER EVER. But if you keep looking for it, you will find something that makes you leave every company behind. You'll end up in the woods. Some ignorance is needed to live a decent life. You can act if a company gets to a point where it's too much.
- Okay, but on the other hand Discord is basically IRC but worse, and I hate it every time I need to use that stupid site. The fact that its evil is really just rubbing salt in the wound. For me anyway.
  
  On the other hand, I have hated the experience every single time I ever needed to get on to IRC for any reason. And needing to either stay logged in or run my own private always-on bounce server in order to see what overseas friends have been up to while I was asleep? Man, that's such a bad user experience. :(
anybody else old enough to remember hopping from chat program to chat program? When I first started gaming it was teamspeak in the majority with other programs like ventrillo in the minority. Then when teamspeak got shit everybody moved to Skype. Then when Skype got shit we moved to Discord. I will say it's shocking Discord has lasted this long honestly, but I'm not surprised if another one turns up whenever Discord gets inevitably too shit for the majority of people to handle.
- Yes, I remember ICQ.
- Those all-in-one chat programs like Trillian, Adium, and Pidgin were what I ended up using.
- Roger wilco? 🤣 I remember seeing an advertisement for Roger wilco in a program installer and was so jazzed about the idea of talking with my friends over voice while playing games lol
I honestly wouldn't mind seeing an extension to the IRC spec to bring in reasonable discord-like functionality to some servers. It's time we start moving back to open standards from walled gardens.
Long live IRC!!!
Sadly I couldn't get away. All my irl friends are in Discord.
- They are also irl. Are they too far away for you?
I love this image so much I wanna hug it.
Also, read in the voice of Gianni Matragrano
I can't remember what Discord did at the time, but there was a decent push to try and move to a different platform. We tried out Guilded, but we had a pretty hard time getting adoption from the users on our Discord server and ended up dropping the transition.
I didn't think I'd ever say this again, but TeamSpeak 5 is actually looking like it could be the solution we're looking for. I still need to figure out how I can host a server compatible with version 5 though.
- How does Teamspeak differ from Discord in terms of ownership? Bc it seems like the functionality is pretty similar
  
  My understanding is that while Teamspeak does provide some public servers that you can connect to, most servers are privately hosted.
  People either subscribe to hosting services or host it on their own hardware which gives you complete control of the server and the content.
  I know I'm planning on trying to host my community server on my hardware, but I'm not too sure about how the "Homebase" comes into play with TS5
- What about element/matrix?
  
  I only just learned about that combination yesterday. Sounds like I should look into it a bit more?
I don't see the punch line.
- It's funny in a meta circle jerk kinda way
I literally only use discord to voice chat with my friends once a year when we are gaming.
Do people use it for other stuff?
- Yes, some developers use Discord to provide technical/product support - this is where the "Yes please search our chat archive for answers to your question. it will certainly remain up forever and not get deleted when the shareholders realize it’s not profitable" comes from. It's honestly really annoying, since I don't really want to add yet another Discord server to my existing clutter just to get an answer that may not even be there.
  I really only like using Discord as a parallel community, like the Discord guild for Beehaw or the ones I used to be on which were associated with other forums/subreddits/etc. Making it a privileged channel for getting important announcements, support, or other information feels like stretching it beyond what it's good for, on top of the fact that it's still corporate and stuff could (and does) happen to it without user input.
- There are social communities there who don't gather elsewhere
Nooo let me live in blissful ignorance
You can get banned for third party clients? I've been using BetterDiscord for years now with no issues. I hate the direction of Discord though, I agree with everything else.
- Here's an old post from the Discord support forum talking about this. Not sure if Discord is still handing out bans for third-party clients, but it's definitely a possibility.
  
  I gotcha. I think currently, you'd only get banned if they found out (which they can't currently). If the app ever becomes more invasive client side, I'm certain it would cause a ban wave (and maybe a small riot) but for now, it's not that risky.
- Why do you find Matrix bloated?
Is Revolt chat worth checking out? Just the fact that its open source makes it really appealing.
I'm all down for Discord being the next service people flee from, the enshittification has really been catching up.
- It's pretty quiet last time I checked. Divolt is a privately hosted version used by Lemmy's freemedia community and I honestly think it has more users.
- I personally believe in Matrix long-term though I know people who like Revolt.
- Revolt is fine. Matrix is also fine. They're not great alternatives yet.
!lostlemmings
i just use discord for one group my friend made called 'omies and its just like 5 of us from highschool and maybe 15 others from around the world we've added over the years. its mostly just for us to have a place to voice chat while we game. I don't use discord for anything else.
@Geometry Dash what that mean?
I still have a Twitter account.
I haven’t used it in a long while, but there may be something I want to say in front of as many interactors as possible… so there may be a personal value to it for me, at some point… when I get my shit together in a presentable form.
But Twitter wouldn’t be where my stuff “lived,” it would be a mass mailing type of carpet bomb to attract people to “my place,” where they could dig into what I was saying with me.
I have YouTube for the same reason.
Discord seems the same to me. No, it’s not the place to set up your personal camp. But it can be a place to interact with a novelish audience, with the intent to fully interact with those so inclined elsewhere.
Everything you said is true. But the capitalists own the Internet service providers and cellular carriers. If you know a "federated cellular operator," let me know and I'll hook you up right away. However, there is no such thing. So we get another illusion of freedom in a beautiful package.
- For the life of me I can't find it but years ago there was a push for the internet to adopt a new standard that was fully run on individuals' wifi board in their computers. It was Japanese if I remember right. I'll try to find it.
- I don’t know of any community cell carriers, but co-op ISPs are a thing. Toronto Freenet was probably the first ISP I ever used (stretching the term a bit, since it was more of a BBS service at the time if I remember correctly), and it looks like it’s still going relatively strong.
  http://www.torfree.net/about-freenets.html
Maybe try Revolt Chat. Open source and appears to be like the old Discord. I really only use chat to play games with friends though. Consider Discord communities a pain in the ass to navigate and use.
Edit: Maybe not lol. Haven't been able to get into the account all evening. Sounds like they may have got DDOSed but it was earlier in the day according to their Twitter.
how can I join this discord server?

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