I Hope Rexxitors Tone Down the Low-Hanging Comment Chains on Lemmy.
I loved Reddit for what it is, but nothing made me back out of a post faster than seeing the top 3 parent threads as a regurgitation of the same inside jokes, pun-chains, and so on.
I think it's natural to want the majority of posts to meet one's preferences but what one finds interesting/entertaining/etc. varies for each person.
I love diversity and choice and so I'm happy that each community can have their own individual rules/cultures and we can pick which communities we want to join. E.g., I wouldn't expect the same behaviour/rules/culture in a shit posting community compared to an arch linux community, but I'm glad both types of communities and content will exist.
We can collectively choose what kinds of unique cakes to bake and we can choose which cakes to eat too. :D
I get what you're saying, but communities that spend time together will form their inside jokes, their way of doing things, etc. If you don't like it you don't have to participate. I say this with the upmost respect, but you need to get over yourself. Nobody is forcing you into a community.
So you're saying we should encourage people to not comment and participate because you personally don't enjoy something?
I know I'm being a bit over the top with the wording there but lets really think about it for a moment. Participation is engagement. And if we want Lemmy and by extension Lemmy.World to grow its what we need.
I upvoted you. Its a valid discussion to have. I just personally don't think its something we should be worried about in general.
I jest. Ultimately without some sort of mechanic that disincentivizes noisy, low-effort joke comments there's not going to be some sort of magical cultural shift. I'm just arriving, but from what I'm seeing Lemmy doesn't have any sort of design that will skew comments towards actual discussion and away from jokes/noise in any meaningful way.
That's your opinion and you're welcome to it, but nothing will kill adoption rates harder than doing the whole early Mastodon thing of "you should change how you behave here"
I could still find the information I needed when it was a serious query, and I could still find sound and sensitive viewpoints on many topics. But, opening a horrible post just to see a horribly distasteful comment as the first response just kept reminding me not to take life so seriously.
Lemmy sorts comments differently from reddit. Lemmy's documentation page about their algorithm describes reddit's algorithm as one that,
rewards comments that are repetitive and spammy.
It's an issue the developers claim to have a solution for.
I have no problem with jokes and comment chains. People should have their fun. But, I deleted my reddit account in frustration years ago. Reddit ranks the jokes higher than relevant discussion.
I'm cautiously optimistic. Lemmy is likely to be less prone to this particular problem.
Hopefully you can find some social media platform that doesn't have any other people on it so that you can live in peace from the dumb shit that other people post.
the other thing to consider with low effort, duplication of memes is the server overhead. one thing to burn corporate coffers with the same people of walmart and cat tropes but this kind of stuff burns server and storage resources.
for a corporate entity looking to make billions off our data that's the cost of doing business -- but for lemmy server admins it's a truly personal cost.
imo we should be respectful of our "homes" and try not to trash them with low value content.
At first I thought this is an overly pretentious post, but while writing a response I thought about some of the most upvoted yet heinously circlejerky comment threads I've had to wade through to get to a rational or different comment. Good point OP'Lem!
For real though , idk if I see it happening. If the culture of "this" comments comes with, all we have against it is an opposing culture of trying to keep comments high-quality. It just depends on what kind of redditors take the effort to migrate
Lemmy reminds me of old school BBS where actual discussion happened. I know it's been a shift for me where I actually have to think about a response and hold a discussion instead of just following the patterns. Not that I don't appreciate rote comments, it's nice to expect a joke and have that delivered on. Not every thread though.
If the Lemmies end up like 2023 reddit, then maybe what you're looking for is tildes.net which seems to be more like r/AskHistorians meets pre-September Usenet.
I used to wish there was a browser plugin that would just hide the top comment on posts somehow. Invariably, when a postvreally blows up, the top comment is some kind of joke or a pun that doesn't add anything to the discussion at hand.
That's just Zoomer humor. It has nothing to do with Reddit. Memes on tiktok/insta are the same thing. The same joke over and over (that's not even "funny" in the traditional sense) repeated so much that it's funny.
I agree with you, the relationship subs were/are a hell of 'heh a quick way to lose that 210 pounds, dump him sweaty!'. Like why can't we just give advice without everyone trying to be a wiseass.
I will also add, that people's time is also a finite resource. And so we can all help by being respectful of the rules for each community (save moderators time) and additionally in communities where you are asking for help -- avoid being a Help Vampire.