YSK that all lemmy instances have an open moderation log by default!
Not saying that our mods here aren't doing a great job! Just the opposite! I think they are doing a phenomenal job! However, as users we should keep an eye on the logs to make sure power is kept in check. You can always view the modlog at the bottom of your browser window!
If someone posted stuff that really should be removed forever without any way of seeing or recovering it (like illegal stuff, especially CP), could it be done? I don't think it's a good idea to have a permanent backlog of stuff that was meant to be deleted. I understand concerns around transparency, but some stuff really should not be accessible.
I am and mod and admin in a bookwormstory.social and you can as a mod hide a comment to say "deleted by a mod" and as an admin delete comment from the database clicking "purge" button
Idk how that works releted to federation of purged content
But I wonder, why are removed posts just hidden? You can still access the links from the ModLog itself, URLs probably still appear in search engines, along with any images / content.
It would make sense if they are kept for a while so that others can check for abusive behaviour, but are they ever actually purged?
AFAIK it was similar on reddit. You could still see content removed from the sub in a user's history. I think the mechanism they're trying to argue they're controlling is promotion of that content. Especially here where no one "owns" it, it just is. Being seen to promote illegal content is what the heat comes from.
One of the best things about open source software - there is no need to hide useful information from your user base. A concept largely forgotten in today corporate hemisphere.
As you mentioned, I think the mods have done a fantastic job given the learning curve and lack of mod tools. This is just a good tool for accountability and transparency. Keep it up!
there is no need to hide useful information from your user base
yet only the instance admins can see my total karma point sum while I can't. It seems this has been removed to prevent "karma farming". I don't get it.
I thought it wasn't available to anyone, but why would you want to view it? I never felt the karma system added much to reddit except the aforementioned karma farmers
Honestly, while I could care less about karma, this is likely just due to the infancy of the software. You had 2 people working on this for ~3 years, and in three days their user base increased 10x. It’s not like they were given time to prepare (thanks spez). These things will be worked out, we just have to be patient. It is worth the wait for federation.
This is super good to know. I’m planning on eventually spinning up my own server, basically for this reason, but the transparency of being able to audit mod behavior is awesome.