They better be repairable, 2-3 in 10 of them will need it out of the box. smh Lenovo i used to have better expectations of you.

For the curious: My work has us get batches of them, some have camera issues, others simply don't turn on.
- I'm a bit surprised by this, looking at common recommandations for PC laptops Lenovo is mentioned 90% of the time then alternative manufacturers like frame.work. What would be your recommandation then?
  
  Probably framework. I think they are reading the writing on the wall with all of the Thinkpad fans I know either having purchased one or on preorder for the new ones.
  
  Thanks, I seriously considered getting one but their supply is still limited and I can't get one in my country :/
  
  Yeah, they're still on backorder since everyone (understandably) lost their minds when they dropped the current gen models. Should be cleared up by early next year.
  
  mmh imo all the main manifacturers cheaps us out in the laptop category (unless you go into the expensive side i guess). There's always some compromise somewhere :/
  
  But to be fair, i'm not some reviewer and haven't seen all that the land of laptops has to offer. My advice would be to go looking at different youtube reviews on different channels too.
  
  In my experience:
  
  Microsoft devices while not too good on repairability (hard to open) are often solid and reliable, they tend to be able to keep up with the time. Ex: my surface pro 4 is still used and is surprisingly keeping up. I'd say the same on the surface laptop side. They are more work oriented and less for gaming sadly.
  
  Asus has a nice gaming oriented catalog, but they feel cheap material wise. I've got the ROG Flow Z13 tablet and it's amazing the amount of power they managed to put in there, the casing is all metal so my previous statement doesn't apply to this one, but the screen is plastic(?) and has some damage already. I've use a Strix laptop a few times and that's where i found the quality lacking.
  
  I used to think HP was a brand to avoid, but with the ones we ship out, they seem to be decent. I have yet to use it.
  
  I had an Acer aspire that had a pentium in it, probably got it around 2008-10. Used to game on it until it overheated itself off, and rinse repeat many times. Great laptop for everyday use, suprisingly still running to this day. I'd recommend for people who dont want to get a chromebook, as some form of step up.
  
  I've no experience with other brands.
  
  In my experience, HP machines are very good. At work we switched to Dells, and I absolutely hate them. I've encountered a lot of problems, bad drivers, puffed up battery, stupid Dell software (like the piece of shit WavesMax that comes with the audio driver and needs to run in the background, otherwise it won't switch from speakers to headphones when you plug them in; it also applies shitty audio effects on every every audio device. If you turn it off and switch the playback device, it turns back on).
  
  Thanks for sharing your experiences! My girlfriend has to buy a laptop soon and that definitively helps!
  
  Every time I've tried Acer or Asus I've had a deal breaker hardware issue immediately. I see people recommending them a lot but they must have QC consistency issues of some kind. Maybe I just had bad luck, but I always end up going back to Lenovo and I never have issues.

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