.ml world "news" continuing to be an excellent source of journalism and definitely NOT contributing to the spread of Putin talking points!/s
.ml world "news" continuing to be an excellent source of journalism and definitely NOT contributing to the spread of Putin talking points!/s
This is the kind of content the .ml admins cultivate through their bans and censorship. They'll frequently remove articles from credible good sources that directly go against their narratives, while allowing misinformation and conspiracy websites to include RT, Sputnik and (as shown) random substack blogs as long as they tow the narratives that align with them.
E.g. Ukraine is a Nazi regime and Russia is just "liberating" the Ukrainian people
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The lie would be anyone on here talking about brigading that post but you. I don’t even see it linked in this thread at all
Edit: thinking about this some more, your take is even more fuck-stupid considering OP is the main force behind the lemmy.ml boycott which encourages people not to participate on the instance whatsoever
well I have an acct there too. since I am, in all actuality, much a lefty. my initial reply was in good faith because I believe folks need to come with links not rhetoric, and now that I have them, (it was in another reply), I can take them back over the wall.
I’m a socialist. I largely stopped going there when they decided anything other than the prevailing view of the admins is racism. Can’t have a meaningful discussion there, wrongthink comments get nuked.
I suspect you’ll get plastered with some label and put in timeout if you attempt to pierce their bubble at all.
yeah. i reckon so. anarchist socialist here too.
Right on. It’s usually pretty telling when they’re asked about their thoughts on the Kronstadt Rebellion. Vanguard socialism is fucking bunk, imo
the original burden of truth rests with those making claims… there was never any evidence that ukraine had a nazi problem, so why should we or they have to prove a negative before the original claimants provide any evidence at all?
“just asking questions” isn’t “just” it’s also repeating an idea, which absolutely is helping that idea remain and spread… by “just asking questions” that have been asked for years and years and years with no evidence to support the questions, it becomes entirely propaganda
see also: the bullshit asymmetry principle
i wanted evidence the nazi prop was false. my original question had “that patch is nazi” as an idea to prove was false. sheesh. read the whole idea.
and my point was related to the bullshit principal- there MUST be a cohort of links debunking the claims.
i wanted evidence the nazi prop was false.
okay and i want evidence that it’s true before spending time and energy debunking something that is just a wild claim presented without sources
the burden of proof is on the claim not the defendant
and my point was related to the bullshit principal- there MUST be a cohort of links debunking the claims.
that’s absolutely not related to the bullshit asymmetry principal other than it being a prime example of it: it takes minimal effort to write a post asking for evidence - sincere or not, btw, there’s no way to know if you’re acting in good or bad faith - whilst it takes a lot of effort to do a web search by comparison, which you could also spend time and energy doing
if you provide evidence pointing to the fact that ukraine has nazis, then that does 2 things:
- shows that there’s actually something to discuss other than harmful conspiracy: not trying to prove a negative: there’s specific claims and perhaps sources
- shows that you’ve invested time into the topic (perhaps), which means that at least we’re confident your asking in good faith rather than using the question as a means to an end
assuming you don’t believe the ukrainian govt has a nazi problem, this is also a core part of the scientific method: don’t try and prove what you believe; try and disprove it and if you can’t then what you believe is correct… dig up any real evidence for the claim, and if you can’t find real evidence then it’s nothing more than putin making a claim for unknown reasons when he clearly has an agenda
we know it’s not true. why are you so triggered i asked for shareable links that show examples of PATCHES and sigils being not nazi and other prop being false? I was given links and they were great!
Share the actual truths and that will outweigh the agitprop.