New Mexico officials call for governor’s impeachment after firearms restriction
New Mexico officials call for governor’s impeachment after firearms restriction
Democratic governor’s emergency order restricts carrying firearms for at least 30 days amid spate of gun violence
New Mexico state representatives Stefani Lord and John Block are calling for the impeachment of Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham after Grisham issued an emergency order suspending the right to carry firearms in public in and around Albuquerque, the state’s largest city.
The governor on Friday issued an emergency order suspending the right to carry firearms in public across Albuquerque and the surrounding county for at least 30 days amid a spate of gun violence.
“This is an abhorrent attempt at imposing a radical, progressive agenda on an unwilling populace. Rather than addressing crime at its core, Governor Grisham is restricting the rights of law-abiding gun owners,” the statement from Lord read.
Grisham said she felt compelled to act in response to gun deaths, including the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy outside a minor league baseball stadium this week.
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I fucking agree with her, but that doesn't mean someone in power should ever make blatantly unconstitutional moves. Nobody should get to unilaterally make declarations like that, regardless of sentiment.
Yeah and as we all know the second amendment has ALWAYS protected your right to openly carry guns in public \s
What does “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms” mean to you?
Back when this was written it was considered cowardly to concealed carry. Open carry was the norm.
What does well-regulated mean to you? Seems interesting you left that off.
Back when the second amendment was written people owned slaves and poured their piss in the street. What’s your point?
The New Mexico constitution also has a right to bear arms and it's not specified for a militia. Article 2 part 6:
No law shall abridge the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms for security and defense, for lawful hunting and recreational use and for other lawful purposes, but nothing herein shall be held to permit the carrying of concealed weapons. No municipality or county shall regulate, in any way, an incident of the right to keep and bear arms.
“No municipality or county” the state is neither.
Like I said earlier, this doesn’t have to live forever. Just long enough (is probably the thinking)
I know the history and modern interpretation.
then stop gaslighting people on the internet
And as we know something that is well-regulated only refers to it being in physical working order, not following any sort of rules or order, right? Cause the interpretation that the second amendment protects the unfettered right of individual gun ownership is not very old.
Also we should amend the constitution to repeal the second amendment because it’s a moral harm on our society.
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sounds like you also do not understand what a comma does
Sounds like you also have an understanding of history that’s no more than 50 years old. That’s one of the most argued over sentences in American history, down to its inception.
I know guns are super cool and stuff but try not to trip on all the dead bodies on your way to getting a fuckin clue mate
I left it off because it has 0 impact on "the right of the people".
Yes I too find life much easier when I ignore the inconvenient words
Please explain then. This is not the right of the militia to keep and bear arms, it's the right of the people. They are two distinct sentences. Please tell me how the militia has any impact on "the right of the people to keep and bear arms".
There's nothing inconvenient about those.
They’re not two sentences lol. The second amendment is all one big, convoluted sentence my guy.
The second amendment is only one sentence...
The founders wanted the militias to provide the bulk of the country's defense and to not have a standing army. Anyone who owned a gun had to register it so that it could be verified to be in working order in case a militia needed to be formed. That whole idea of having the militia provide for our defense failed pretty quickly when several uncoordinated militias got their asses handed to them by Natives in the Northwest Territory. The federal government moved towards having an actual standing army and the role of militias shrunk.
It means we should be cool with dead kids because some guys in powdered wigs liked to stay strapped.
Verily I sayeth, if thou comest at me thou had best cometh correct!
Speech elevated to thine mater, Manorie G.
Being able to carry in town is a relatively recent development. It is the root cause of one of the few actual shootouts in the old west: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunfight_at_the_O.K._Corral
That is not correct. Several colonies/states had passed laws against open carry in the years before and after the founding of the US including Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Virginia, and North Carolina.
Well, we can take bets on whether or not this survives the first judge who sees it, or argue on whether or not believing someone being right should allow them to unilaterally ignore the constitution.
You know there are states where open carry is not allowed, right? It also doesn’t need to survive a judge, it needs to be in effect for long enough to curb violence. Whether that happens is a different question than its constitutionality. But I doubt that this is intended to pass our insane judicial system too to bottom.
It's both open and concealed carry banned. I personally agree with her, but that matters not, as government officials shouldn't get to ignore parts of the constitution they dislike "just for a bit" and then go "oopsie ;)" once the courts confirm they're ignoring the constitution.
This is why principled Americans want to see Trump in jail. Doesn't matter if you feel good about your actions, the constitution matters more
Far too many people feel that Supreme Court opinions, no matter how ridiculous, are unquestionable determinations of constitutionality. The sacred right to carry guns for self-defense didn't exist until 15 years ago.
This is not just open carry, it's carry of all firearms outside of ranges.
I think this is what we have governors and presidents for, to act quickly, less carefully than a legislature. Whether or not it's struck down in court, it at least bring attention to the problem.
The ban was issued as part of a declaration of a public health emergency involving gun violence. There is a ton of precedent for public health and safety taking priority over all. The classic example is that it is constitutional for the government to prevent you from trying to exercise your First Amendment right to free speech by yelling "Fire" in a crowded movie theater.
This is no different from that: there is a public health and safety issue preventing people from trying to exercise their Second Amendment rights as embodied¹ by New Mexico law.
¹ accurately or not