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Hungarian here if anyone has any questions :>
Me too lol if anyone needs two hungarians answering
Is this the "gray" march I heard of, weeks ago?
The pride march was yesterday, the grey march was made by a satirical small party (kétfarkú kutyapárt [two tailed dog party]) which was making fun of the governments stance, amongst many-many-many other things, on pride! The significance of that march was, aside from drawing a penis on the map, that inconsiderably more folks attended that than that of Viktors, which also took place parallel to that! Like hundreds of thousands of people attended one, while only a few thousand attended the other
I think your numbers are a bit off for the gray pride march. I don't know the numbers, but MKKP even on their better days, don't pull multiple 10s of thousands, and that Fidesz ralley looked like an impromptu meeting of a couple of hundred.
This one though. I am sorry I couldn't join, but it was a sight to see the bridge and Rákóczi út fill up like that. 100k+ numbers here.
Yeah probably those apps are not that precise measuring crowns 😅
Me three
Who's Orban?
Our PM. He has been in office since 2010, that makes him the longest serving PM in the EU as far as I know. In terms of his politics he used to be conservative liberal, then he went into nationalism and far right and haven't looked back ever since. He is a populist who captured the state media, corrupted law and order and pocketed a significant portion of all the money the government had and also whatever the EU gave us. He is constantly antagonizing the usual groups, the EU and George Soros for some reason. Yes literally. Also he basically almost banned free media a few months ago. He is the sort of guy who would be a real pain in the ass as a neighbor or as a family member, nevermind the leader of the government.
Question for all 3, what are Hungarians doing to get rid of orban?
Regular protests, giving part of our tax and donating to independent media, talking to right-wing family about all the issues here, voting for the opposition. Sadly the opposition hasn't been potent lately (all 14 years of Orbán until last year). As in they were idiots. And then finally we got someone who can actually can speak to the masses (Peter Magyar) just last year and now we may get rid of Orban with the elections next year. Well that is if he doesn't ban Magyar from running.
EDIT: big dummy can't english
and now we may get rid of Orban with the elections last year.
you mean next year
yes that one thanks
No questions, just keep up the good fight :)
I like to say “Slava Ukraini“ to cheer on the Ukrainians in their struggle. Is there a good such similar expression for Hungarians in theirs?
Maybe the “szív szív lapát”(—>hearth hearth shovel, referring to a hearth shaped shovel implying what is awaiting Fidesz members)
Closest I got is 'bojler eladó', but it is nowhere near as heartening as what Ukraine's got.
- Is there hope for Orban to be removed?
- Is the Orban situation partly a city vs non-city thing? (in terms of votes)
- How come the Budapest pride was able to go through despite the ban?
Sorry, I apparently said nonsense for your third question! Apparently while our right to protest was revoked, local-city events can still be held and app Budapest mayor (Karácsony Gergely)organized the pride event!
-The question is now not whether Tisza, the largest opp party, is going to win (independent analysis measured 51% for Tisza and 34(?)% for Fidesz, while the government stopped posting their analysis for some stramge-inexplicable reason) but if Fidesz is going to relinquish the power! I personally very much doubt that we won’t need to have a civil war, a short one as apparently as no one really supports Fidesz anymore -While undoubtedly such a demagogue would have and has its base in the less educated parts of the country, another stronger reason is that the former oppositionary parties abandoned the countryside(everything outside of the capital) for an actually unexplainable reason! Peter Magyar, leader of Tisza, was proclaimed a genius by independent media for doing the obvious thing: doing nationwide tours… -One of the largest points of the pride march was a dare for the gov to enforce its ruling banning our rights of protest! Most people probably didn’t attend to stand in solidarity of the non-conventional sexes; as last year only 35k attended while this year it was between 200-500k
The signs you need to look for is what happens next. Sure, they knew the optics would be really bad if the police had started slaying into 300/500K people. But tomorrow or next week it’ll only be a few hundred. Or just individuals that wear a rainbow item. Will they ‘disappear’ such as is now happening with darker skinned people in the US?
I really wouldn’t think that things will devolve that way! Such would only trigger a stronger response at a time when the idea of a civil war is only becoming more and more socially acceptable view to remove the administration!
That is a big bridge. Impressive to see that many people shoulder to shoulder.
I visited Budapest in 2015 and most recently this summer. The city subway was significantly modernized, and also felt more expensive. Overall a great experience. Curious how the last 10 years have been for you? What’s your recommendation for a place to visit in Hungary outside of Budapest?
For urban exploring I would recommend Székesfehérvár (crowning city of the past empire)
For tracking I personally love the Bükk mountains
For bathing and relaxing I would recommend Hévíz