Eight US states seek to outlaw chemtrails – even though they aren’t real
Eight US states seek to outlaw chemtrails – even though they aren’t real
States introduce chemtrail-coded legislation as conspiracy theories take root in some US chambers
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Let me get this straight. They are going to outlaw... water condensation. They are literally the grandpa from The Simpsons yelling at the clouds. Because chemtrails are basically just clouds. It's just water vapor from the airplane engines condensing in cold atmosphere at high altitudes. Because it's cold up there. They know it's cold up there, right? Right? Imagine being a grown fucking adult and not knowing how this shit works. Go out in the winter and breathe with open mouth. You're now breathing out chemtrails. you fucking dumbasses.
Ban dihydrogen monoxide!
Scientists have shown that those who come in contact with dihydrogen monoxide have a 100% fatality rate. Every single person that has come in contact with it dies.
It's in all the food you eat! Big Food lobbies to protect their profits by using it in food production!
The real tragedy is the pollution. While there are areas of the world that are generally safe from dihydrogen monoxide in the environment, in my area there are literally rivers of the stuff with regular exposure to the air we breath.
In all major US cities since the 1970's that have a river in the downtown area, the percentage concentration of dihydrogen monoxide has been increasing! We keep finding more and more of it in parts per million in our river water. At what point will someone in our government stand up for us and say this is enough?!?
At what point will someone in our government stand up for us and say this is enough?!?
The problem is that dihydrogen monoxide has thousands of industrial and commercial uses. You'd be shocked at how many product from manufacturing all the way to food processing use the stuff at some point in their process.
It's like 99.8% fatality ATM.
There is a latency period. Anyone exposed has been shown to die at a 100% rate.
I mean, yeah, but that's just how things work out in everything.
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No no, you see, chemtrails look and behave exactly like contrails. They're entirely, completely, 100% indistinguishable from contrails. So now that theyve banned them, you can be sure that all those trails you see in the sky are pure contrails and you've got your local Republican politician to thank for it!
Its definitely not just that they want an easy win without actually having to do anything, do not look at the man behind the curtain!
See the problem is you’re using logic and reason backed up by facts. They need to hear loud buzzwords from talking heads.
Well technically not just water they also contain some chemicals from the exhaust. Ironically those same people don't mind exhausts from cars or coal power plants.
Airliners don’t burn lead and that some bit of chemicals disperses at 30,000 ft. Bubba McSisterhump in his diesel pavement princess chooching up a giant cloud of black smoke directly in your face…somehow cool and owns the libs
These people are fucking exhausting
Exhaust-ing! Get it!? ahaha! ... I'll show myself out...
Well if you can see condensed water vapor in open air, it's most likely nucleating around something. And that something is probably the combustion products from the jet fuel. I don't know exactly what each of those thousands of molecular structures are, but burning fuels in general can produce a whole host of compounds including Polyaromatic Hydrocarbons (PAHs) that can be rather carcinogenic. And that pollution most likely settles somewhere on the planet surface eventually.
As takeda said in another comment, it might not be worse than more local sources like cars or trains or power plants, but it's very unlikely to just be water, and probably not healthy.
I'm not saying it's a deliberate spread of chemicals and it's certainly not the mind control nonsense that conspiracy lunatics think. No, most combustion products are just waste with no real use. But calling it "just water" or "harmless clouds" can't be entirely right unless you believe carbon atoms can just disappear.
The logic behind chemtrails is that evil governments or the rich Illuminati elite are intentionally spraying specific chemicals to control population. If argument was ecological impact of burning fuel, then we'd have to ban airplanes, not chemtrails. But that's not the argument.
Also it's not water droplets or vapor, it's most likely crystalized water vapor or droplets. Commercial airplanes fly at around 10km above ground and temperatures can get very low, we're talking -40°C. It's literally those videos where someone throws a pot of hot water up in the air outside during cold winter. It instantly turns into a white mist. Hot jet engines, cold atmosphere, burned fuel and vapor during combustion, would you look at that... CHEMTRAILS!
Not to mention weight is incredible luxury metric on airplanes. If conspiracy people think commercial airlines would carry half the fuel on board and replace other half with chemicals for chemtrails, because reasons, yeah, they don't do that. They actually rather not even fill the fuel tanks all the way if it's not necessary for the flight and rather do it when airplane touches at the destination and they refuel it there. Because carrying additional weight consumes more fuel, even if that weight is the fuel itself.
Yep, I understand all that and agree with you. The chemtrail conspiracy people are unhinged.
I'm just criticizing the statement that fossil-fuel vehicles are only emitting water, when we know for a fact that the combustion products are pollutants.
Well, I never said it's JUST water. I just said water is the main component that freezes and forms crystals that appear as smoke/clouds in the sky from airplanes because water tends to freeze pretty quickly at -40°C.
I was responding to this part.
Because chemtrails are basically just clouds. It's just water vapor from the airplane engines condensing in cold atmosphere at high altitudes. [...] Go out in the winter and breathe with open mouth. You're now breathing out chemtrails.
I agree with your reaction to the chemtrail conspiracy crowd who are clueless on science, but this is too oversimplified IMO.
I mean, I was just describing the part that most likely creates "chemtrails". We weren't exactly talking exact exhaust composition of airplane engine, just the part that is the cause of "chemtrails" which is most likely just water. Of course there is some uncombusted jet fuel, CO2, water, probably some CO and other substances that are formed during combustion and sent out the exhaust of the engine. But most of those probably don't affect formation of "chemtrails".
Also all the CO2, clearly we should be banning these flying machines from spreading mass quantities of weather changing chemicals in our atmosphere.
We don't have a good alternative to planes so it's probably better to require the industry to offset its pollution. Not than anyone wants flights to be more expensive. But as usual the ultra-wealthy take the most flights yet don't pay as much as they should.
I dont think this is true. My understanding is that its excess jet fuel being jettisoned before landing to reduce weight. Not that thats any better, but its for saftey.
My understanding…
You’ve misunderstood.
The only time fuel is dumped by aircraft is during an emergency and either 1) needs to land somewhere unexpected and is far overweight for the runway, or 2) there is a situation where the landing is exceedingly dangerous and there's a need to reduce weight and potential fireball size (e.g. landing gear failures).
Yeah pretty sure that's not a thing.
Only for emergency landings. Airplanes are only fueled for a planned flight plus some reserve for economic reasons (carrying excess fuel means you consume more fuel and that costs airlines money). If you're making a regular planned approach you've already used most of planned fuel and airplane is ready to land as is. For emergency landings soon after takeoff, landing at that time would mean airplane is too heavy and would probably destroy landing gear and damage fuselage/wings on touchdown and you don't want that when you already have other problems. Only then they dump the excess fuel to get to the right landing load (weight). Source: I watch a lot of air crash investigations on TV.