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Will Pathfinder still be standing after the dust settles?

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/2681

Is there a consensus on what #Pathfinder is going to look like after the dust settles on the #D&D / #OGL changes? I've just shut down my dndbeyond subscription as a result of the changes and told my group we need to move the campaign to another system. But #Paizo and Pathfinder are the main targets of the changes, so I'm not sure whether that will even be an option for us!

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  • What's happening in D&D that's attacking PF?

    • Hasbro is changing the OGL. The new one is horribly restrictive, allows them to steal the work of 3rd party producers without compensation and gouges them 25% of their profit and revokes the old OGL

      • Pretty much, yes. Here's an archive of Gizmodo's article, which goes more in-depth into the fiasco:

        https://archive.is/94i9f

        • I don't know if this means it's a good thing or a bad thing I've made a lot of progress in making a 5th edition character sheet building website.

          • Yeah, there's a lot to go through and I won't pretend I understand all of it. I think this means they have the ability to shut down or steal your website, but don't take my word for it. I'm not well-versed in legalese and may be just spewing shit.

      • What's OGL? Never heard of this before.

        • @IoniCitY @ada its the last page of almost every printed gaming material out there. if you purchased a module or class guide its almost guaranteed to be there at the end, 1 page.

        • Open Gaming License. It's basically the license that lets 3rd parties develop content for D&D.

          • Would this stop PF2e? I could see 1e, but 2e is quite a bit different and I don't think they could claim it here.

            • Screwing over Paizo is basically the point of these changes.

              If Paizo signs the new OGL, doing so will revoke the old OGL, and it will force Paizo in to an unfair relationship with Hasbro, allowing Hasbro to re-use any and all of Paizo's content without restriction or cost, it would require Paizo to share their future releases and product planning with Hasbro and it would skim 25% of Paizo's profits.

              If Paizo doesn't sign up to the new OGL, they aren't able to produce new content.

              • Fuck, so we can't use PF either. But like I said, is 2e falling under the OGL 1.1?

                • As I understand it, parts of PF2 use OGL. But honestly, I'm not really sure what the impact will be. It's part of what prompted this post initially

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