Federation has just solidified the fact that there is no saving the West
From all the concern trolling I see in the other instances it's clear that there's no winning over these people. Everything is "Kremlin propaganda" to them. I do think a lot of chapos did go a little overboard with the PPB, but even thoughtful responses were met with the "hateful rhetoric" and "Kremlin talking points" BS. As always, it is to the Global South we must look to for any hope in the future...
Wait until you get to the part where people do the victim blaming, high school drama, and content warning stuff on each other for a) ego, b) personal advancement, c) stomping down on minorities that piss them off by existing