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The reason why MAGA tolerate/support Trump despite the Epstein issue is that their ranks are full of pedophiles, child rapists and assorted enablers themselves, as seen by the laws they pass/repeal in various red states, despite their virtue signalling.
This, + an absurd capacity for cognitive dissonance and total credulousness, total media illiteracy.
What they want is to be angry, and they now live in fantastical worlds of misinformation they have constructed, which takes the effort of deprogramming a cult member to attempt to even discuss nearly anything related to politics to.
They are willfully and malevolently ... not ignorant, just full of false facts and contradictory standards and reasoning patterns.
They are willfully and malevolently ... not ignorant
Conservatives are not only more likely to have dark tetrad personality traits – Machiavellianism, narcissism, psychopathy and everyday sadism – but they're also more likely to be, in a word, stupid. They're definitely malevolently ignorant; the question isn't if they're stupid or evil, they're both.
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In the present research (N = 675), we focus on the relationship between the dark side of human personality and political orientation and extremism, respectively, in the course of a presidential election where the two candidates represent either left-wing or right-wing political policies. Narcissism, Machiavellianism, psychopathy, and everyday sadism were associated with right-wing political orientation, whereas narcissism and psychopathy were associated with political extremism. Moreover, the relationships between personality and right-wing political orientation and extremism, respectively, were relatively independent from each other.
We found eleven significant correlations between conservative [Moral Intuition Survey] judgments and the Dark Triad – [narcissism, Machiavellianism, psychopathy,] all at significance level of p<.00001 – and no significant correlations between liberal [Moral Intuition Survey] judgments and the Dark Triad. We believe that these results raise provocative moral questions about the personality bases of moral judgments. In particular, we propose that because the Short-D3 measures three “dark and antisocial” personality traits, our results raise some prima facie worries about the moral justification of some conservative moral judgments
I ran a follow-up study testing the Dark Triad against conservative and liberal judgments on 15 additional moral issues. The new issues examined include illegal immigration, abortion, the teaching of “intelligent design” in public schools, the use of waterboarding and other “enhanced interrogation techniques” in the war on terrorism, laws defining marriage as the union of one man and one woman, and environmentalism. 1154 participants […] Twenty-two significant correlations were observed between “conservative” judgments and the Dark Triad (all of which were significant past a Bonferonni-corrected significance threshold of p = .0008), compared to seven significant correlations between Dark Triad and “liberal” judgments (only one of which was significant past p = .0008).
[T]here exists a solid empirical paper trail demonstrating that lower cognitive abilities (e.g., abstract-reasoning skills and verbal, nonverbal, and general intelligence) predict greater prejudice. We discuss how the effects of lower cognitive ability on prejudice are explained (i.e., mediated) by greater endorsement of right-wing socially conservative attitude. […]
Right-wing ideologies offer well-structured and ordered views about society that preserve traditional societal conventions and norms (e.g., Jost, Glaser, Kruglanski, & Sulloway, 2003). Such ideological belief systems are particularly attractive to individuals who are strongly motivated to avoid uncertainty and ambiguity in preference for simplicity and predictability (Jost et al., 2003; Roets & Van Hiel, 2011). Theoretically, individuals with lower mental abilities should be attracted by right-wing social-cultural ideologies because they minimize complexity and increase perceived control (Heaven, Ciarrochi, & Leeson, 2011; Stankov, 2009). Conversely, individuals with greater cognitive skills are better positioned to understand changing and dynamic societal contexts, which should facilitate open-minded, relatively left-leaning attitudes (Deary et al., 2008a; Heaven et al., 2011; McCourt, Bouchard, Lykken, Tellegen, & Keyes, 1999). Lower cognitive abilities therefore draw people to strategies and ideologies that emphasize what is presently known and considered acceptable to make sense and impose order over their environment. Resistance to social change and the preservation of the status quo regarding societal traditions—key principles underpinning right-wing social-cultural ideologies—should be particularly appealing to those wishing to avoid uncertainty and threat.
Indeed, the empirical literature reveals negative relations between cognitive abilities and right-wing social-cultural attitudes, including right-wing authoritarian (e.g., Keiller, 2010; McCourt et al., 1999), socially conservative (e.g., Stankov, 2009; Van Hiel et al., 2010), and religious attitudes (e.g., Zuckerman, Silberman, & Hall, 2013).
Despite their important implications for interpersonal behaviors and relations, cognitive abilities have been largely ignored as explanations of prejudice. We proposed and tested mediation models in which lower cognitive ability predicts greater prejudice, an effect mediated through the endorsement of right-wing ideologies (social conservatism, right-wing authoritarianism) and low levels of contact with out-groups. In an analysis of two large-scale, nationally representative United Kingdom data sets (N = 15,874), we found that lower general intelligence (g) in childhood predicts greater racism in adulthood, and this effect was largely mediated via conservative ideology. A secondary analysis of a U.S. data set confirmed a predictive effect of poor abstract-reasoning skills on antihomosexual prejudice, a relation partially mediated by both authoritarianism and low levels of intergroup contact. All analyses controlled for education and socioeconomic status. Our results suggest that cognitive abilities play a critical, albeit underappreciated, role in prejudice. Consequently, we recommend a heightened focus on cognitive ability in research on prejudice and a better integration of cognitive ability into prejudice models.
Oh trust me I know.
After being raised on Rush Limbaugh on AM radio by my Dad, realizing that was all bullshit, and watching my drunk, irresponsible dad become a Q Anon level Magatard...
I know.
Intentionally ignorant might be a better way of phrasing it?
Ignorance alone is like... did you put mustard on X's sandwich? She's allergic! Oh fuck I didn't know.
Intentional ignorance is not like this, its like doing everything you can to avoid or reject any information that does not reinforce your core identity (usually while also denying that that is your core identity).
It is crazy to me how crude and obvious this "conspiracy" is but it just.... works far fucking better than anything before to the point they are adoptig it in more modern storytelling.
I watched the first episode of s4 of the boys and I am convinced kripkee is just pushing the boundary every season to see just how fucking dense people can be, not even close to subtle anymore where I'd be uncomfortable watching it with a red hat the same way as watching a sex scene with your parents. Thanks for coming to my speech
What I have noticed is a large uptick of commentators who liked The Boys ... until season 4, when it went woke.
I occupy the unenviable position of being someone who is a leftist but also thinks that most of Star Wars of the last decade has been plauged with terrible writing, so I get to swim through reviews to find people with substantive criticisms beyond "argh i hate women and diversity argh!"
Anyway, to me watching the reaction to the Boys has been an excercise in absurdity.
The vast, vast majority of right wing types are seemingly completely immune to understanding exactly what is being satirized. Its all characters and an inversion of superhero tropes to them, until quite recently.
I would normally say they did not pick up on the subtext of political commentary being made. But its so fucking obvious by even Season 2, it cannot possibly be called subtext to anyone with a functioning neocortex.
Only now do they seem to realize the show has basically been lampooning the Maga movement the entire time.
I just need to clarify when you say 'until s4 when it went woke were you speaking on behalf of what some people believe or an opinion you hold yourself?
Because if it is the latter the rest of what you said really contradicts it and maybe you should reflect on that. But I'm assuming you're not a dumbass and your are the former.
The boys has always been woke as fuck it didn't change. It's more like Eric kripke had to keep making it more and more and more obvious because Americans are so obtuse and blinded by propaganda patriotism that they cannot comprehend how someone embodying that can be a villain
Sorry, Ive been posting too much and probably could have made that more clear.
To me the satire/commentary of many elements of American society, politics as one of the main ones has been evident from the get go.
But to most of the overtly right wing or right leaning people i know personally, and online commentary people...
...theyve basically largely loved the boys, seemingly not noticing how any of the obvious satire of the modern right wing is stage center, until this latest season.
Which I find absurd.
Huge surprise that the people supporting an ideology that centers around dominance and treating especially women as property would be really into fucking children, nobody saw that coming.
These are the people who joke about jailbait and being attracted to minors
Source : was a minor
Ok im going to actually be less coy.
I was "jailbait" I grew up with men joking about it. Called me it. I had men stop me on the street offering rides and other empty dangerous promises. Watching your uncle start to look at you differently, the pictures he takes of you are just a little more uncomfortable. Your dad's friends make jokes you do or don't understand but they make you so uncomfortable you laugh along because anything else feels scarier.
So actually THAT was my source. And it didn't stop after I was I minor. It stopped once I got fat.