Jordan van den Berg's vigilante-style approach has won him fans and critics amid a housing crisis.
Three years ago, lawyer Jordan van den Berg was an obscure TikTok creator who made videos that mocked real estate agents.
But today the 28-year-old is one of the most high-profile activists in Australia.
Posting under the moniker Purple Pingers, Mr van den Berg has been taking on the nation's housing crisis by highlighting shocking renting conditions, poor behaviour from landlords, and what he calls government failures.
It is his vigilante-style approach - which includes helping people find vacant homes to squat in, and exposing bad rentals in a public database - that has won over a legion of fans.
Given the abstract nature of a lot of the economy these days (which unsurprisingly benefits those with wealth) it's debatable if it fits to be honest. I would lean more towards yes. They would argue that by exposing bad conditions, helping people lower the cost, causing a rental to go empty, or whatever else means they aren't getting the money they feel entitled to.
The same kind of arguments are often used when corporations argue that piracy is stealing. All that has happened is an unauthorised copy of a movie/etc had been created. Yet that is called stealing and they try and fine people sometimes thousands more than what a legal copy would cost.
No one is knocking on the door saying hey get out, and there is reasonably no one going to come knocking on the door... Then yeah fine it's empty. Then I don't care. But if anyone who has the title is saying get out then yeah get out.
If there is someone who has the title says get out, and the squatter doesn't leave, it's basically theft of property.
How is it theft of property? Theft usually involves taking something material away from someone. If the property owner has left their property vacant, having a squatter there doesn't change anything. They've gone from making no money on their vacant property to... still not making money on their property.
And don't say "the squatter is preventing the property owner from making future profit off of the property", because now you're not talking about theft. Profits that don't exist yet can't be stolen.
If I have a piece of property and somebody moves in there, squats, they are basically preventing me from using that piece of property as I choose. Yes I could go in there anyways but let’s be honest how would I actually use it in the way that I want if they are in there? How would I lay out financial documents on the kitchen table to do my bookkeeping? Knowing that someone else is in there could easily take pictures of it? That makes no sense. They’ve effectively taken the property from me and prevented me from using it as I choose. That is effectively theft. No they didn’t pick up a pen from you and take it away. No they didn’t take a phone and take it away. But they have effectively taken my property.
If they insist on living there for six months, how am I going to be there for six months? Realistically. Think about it. So yeah it is that you may not agree with the term of that. But that to me is just irrelevant. In the eyes of the law it’s leaning more and more towards unlawful usage of the property. Which is why the laws are being wrote to remove squatter rights.
If a squatter is squatting somewhere you want to live, sure, yeah, you can't live there. Just like you can't live there if someone else is already renting it.
The way you're describing it, it seems like to you there's no functional difference between someone paying to live in a property you want, vs. squatting in a property you want. You're looking through your own personal lense only, and consider things that inconvenience you as "evil". It's a prime example of the "fuck you I got mine" mentality.
No if they are paying the person who holds the title to be in there, then there is no squatting. That is legal usage. The title holder gave permission for the user to be there for a given period of time. Big difference between renting and squatting
But the inconvenience to you is the same, and that seems to be the thing you have a problem with.
You're taking issue with squatting, even though the effect on you is exactly the same as someone legally renting - ie, you can't occupy that property. So what's the big deal? How does a squatter steal from you, and a renter doesn't? If the only difference is some legal definitions, maybe the two aren't that different after all.
Stealing is taking someone's property without permission. That's what squatting is. By encouraging squatting, this person is encouraging stealing and that makes them an awful person.
Squatting is not "taking property" especially if the property in question is vacant. The property is still there and will stay there when the squatters leave.
It's very much stealing property. The same way a crime is committed when someone is raped. The victim still has their body afterwards, but a crime has been committed.
That's the weirdest comparison I've seen yet. Yes rape is rape and rape is a crime but rape is not stealing. I really don't see the point you are trying to make.
No what the fuck. Rape is literally not taking something from someone. Rape is taking control over someone abusing some kind of power be it physical or nonphysical and forcing them into sexual activities.
Both are bad, rape is considerably worse, and I think I'm done arguing with your bs
I know this is supposed to be a joke but I'm in a pedantic mood: That's not strictly correct. Theft is possible when you enter with consent and rape is possible without entering at all.
Theft is a crime but not all crimes are theft. If I punch you in the face that isn't theft. The only way someone could consider rape to be theft is if they considered women to be property.
The problem here is that you seem to value your own property rights over the right of individuals to have shelter. Sure, it's not an ideal situation; in an ideal society "squatting" shouldn't occur, but we live in a society where people are forced to choose between being homeless or squatting in someone's property. If you think they should forgo their right to shelter to preserve your right to property then you are the awful person.
Holy shit my guy. "Someone vaguely disagreed with me and used the same verbiage I used on someone else, time to block them". Touch grass, please, for your sake as much as ours.
Ah, but you see, it's not hypocritical because rules are just weapons to use against your opponents, and we're suckers for not using it against them first. /s