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Top Biden allies say he's still the best bet to win against Trump in November

www.nbcnews.com Top Biden allies say he's still the best bet to win against Trump in November

The president’s allies came to his defense amid calls from some Democrats for Biden to step aside from the 2024 presidential race.

Top Biden allies say he's still the best bet to win against Trump in November
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  • No. If I misunderstood then campaign finance and lobbying money wouldn't be the rock solid predictor of how a politician will vote. But money remains one of the most reliable predictors of politician behavior, and most democrats take huge amounts of corporate money to obstruct any real progress.

    • That doesn't seem particularly at odds with what I said, but I guess I'm glad you've got it all figured out. I'm hoping your plans to change the system work out. Genuinely. If you have actionable, realistic, achievable ideas for removing the corrupting influence of money from the world at large, I'm all ears.

      In the meantime I'll to continue to vote for whichever candidate (that stands a realistic chance at winning) I feel will do the least harm to the people I love and the institutions I begrudgingly tolerate.

      I've already mentioned that I'm a moron, this should reinforce that.

      • Not voting for the corporate obstructionists would be the most basic starting point. Its not about having everything figured out, it's about the urgent need for people to understand that what you percieve as harm reduction isn't working, that thinking is why we're here to begin with. It's not even actually harm reduction, it is soft-selling fascism and acclimating the Democratic base to it which increases the potency of the GOP's fascism by helping normalize it in increments. It can't be allowed to become the new normal.

        • I guess I'm confused. Are you advocating for accelerationism regardless of the cost to human life?

          • What are you talking about? We're funding a genocide.

            I'm saying critical reform of the Democratic party is not possible if you keep supporting fascist-lite candidates and letting them get away with their pied piper bullshit. Ever. People are already dying and suffering due to the lesser of two evils politics, both in Gaza and here in the US. What you're afraid of is that you will suddenly start to feel the consequences of your politics. People are already getting screwed over, it's just acceptable to you because you're not part of those effected groups. You're allowing them to suffer for our collective political sins.

            It has to sink in sooner or later that neoliberalism is politically bankrupt, it can't deliver what we need to stop the slide into fascism and the more energy you put into trying to convince everyone that voting for the Bidens and Clintons of the party will save us, the more acclimated the general public becomes to fascism until one day nothing Trump or the next christo-fascist does will elicit any shock or outrage, there will be nothing you can do to get the majority to care or resist because they're comfortable and all the bad stuff is out of their sight.

            That's the attitude that made the gas chambers possible.

            • You are making a lot of assumptions about me without really knowing anything about me. I would like to continue this discussion but I don't think it's worth it if you want to insist on being intellectually dishonest.

              I do not consider myself a neoliberal. I spent 5 years of my life living and working on communes. I am, quite literally, a communist.

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