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US sues Adobe for ‘deceiving’ subscriptions that are too hard to cancel | The Justice Department alleges that Adobe hid early cancellation fees and trapped consumers in pricey subscriptions

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  • these cocksuckers were charging my 70-yr-old computer-illetrate mom nearly $80 a month because "she wanted to be able to open pdf on her laptop", and then once I found out and tried to cancel this pro subscription which she had, they forced us to pay a $200 cancelation fee which amounts to 50% of the remaining months until the end of the year. Adobe came pre installed and all she did was click on yes, yes, yes after the triall period finished. It's a predetory behavior from a scummy company. I will never forgive them for this.

    • Teach them to use Linux like Ubuntu occasionally, programs like adobe can’t run or aren’t even really used on them. With adobe it became where it was like game and movie development software. If you make good money then it’d cost more than a monthly subscription. They were lucky there was any free games or any games at all for smartphones or anything, we had to take oxycodone to even create anything even on unlocked computers that get stolen and used as mediocre banking system computers.

      Linux had to exist even for hardware like computers or parts to be on the market, these computers were locked. Most programs anyone makes aren’t for pirating or bootlegging videos or video games. All this was, was to brainwash us into playing games and watching movies we made. There’s still an adult world of in person shows, drug and alcohol use, hotels, automobiles, prostitution, and that capitalism lifestyle where you stay independent or in small groups of unrelated people. It was almost like political parties in size. It was like off line off tv celebrities and certain fans. Fans couldn’t really leave their houses or go any where or celebrities didn’t really want to. These aren’t the people you see on tv or in social media news. With those groups everything was passports and no one really used computers unless they bought them on the Silk Road in person. Capitalism wouldn’t go on with locked computers and windows. This is why we use to dull down windows and big companies. People already know and don’t get much out of it all existing or going on. They keep you sitting or laying somewhere and off drugs so they can use it all and eat all the food, because they see it as free.

      Or we really don’t get what is going on with an easternized population living like this, automobiles almost cut it all out of the equation, people have to lure you to their locations or go to yours, because everything is through automobiles. But music and dancing couldn’t be, even though it comes out the speakers. With drugs being illegal someone was always trespassing, loitering, or having or attending parties/get togethers for anything to go on with music production, actual record labels don’t exist, advertisers committing fraud use all the original music equipment. With how they made money and economics and lowered incomes down it was just like high school after parties or extra curriculum with drug usage.

      They pretty much make everyone drug dealer as in income level. Drug dealers weren’t rich but brought in a thousand or more a month if they actually deal, they just may spend it immediately. It’s just this one guy that was still at Apple doing this adobe and subscription thing (with stolen software from big time movie/game producers and them all kidnapped), and it looks like professional advertising but the economics of it was probably fake. Not much goes on with streaming and television watching. Plus no one walks anywhere or that much, it was physically dangerous too.

      Anyone with more had some involvement with local or state government and possibly embezzlement. Based on how capitalist everything was or seemed employment was impossible or completely arranged in an almost communist way or putting everyone at different levels of wealth or life (as in being a parent or kids etc. athlete, or whatever).

      But then some people start applying for social security which wasn’t a corrupt system or the same thing as state disability.

      Just so you know the group that uses Microsoft or operates it, commits fraud every time software is released, because no one seeks their old operating systems or has it saved on discs or drives and the computers become unusable unless they were pre 2007, the gpu gets burned out. Nvidia depended on Linux but not really because Linux was kind of crappy in development software unless at a location but it’s not like being at a Japanese corporation. It’s not like being at Nintendo or PlayStation. Xbox and Microsoft made us nervous because it wasn’t the xp version of Microsoft it got taken over during windows 7 or they jumped to any computer software company, if it’s not windows then they do it with Linux or Apple.

      In windows 7 ultimate I think you can develop programs directly through just the gpu. With actual gpu’s and just memory storage like hdd or silicon, the gpu just records anything you show it and does what you teach it to do the gpu and screen are the same thing.

      The actual coding is something different. Coding software is much different and harder or impossible to do certain things with just letters or letters just shape icons or create a code for what color or what graphic to use at that segment. Code may just keep certain stuff secret. When you zoom way out you don’t see the letters making up icons.

      People started stealing ncbi stuff and editing pdfs. PDFs aren’t really supposed to be edited besides by the person who made it but computers aren’t stable like that unless you made it yourself to be durable, that’s what company computers were like and why you maybe couldn’t even install windows 11 or its a different version of the same thing. Different areas or the internet had different things sold before 2012.

      So you have to log in to some program and then you have files backed up or it’s on some cloud. But the cloud equipment and locations are mediocre because of the people that got into the stuff, we don’t to blame it on walking but it sort of was, before 2006 only people that made automobiles really had them.

      As new as subscriptions seem they’re entirely connected to streaming services that came to exist because of cable television. All because of professional sports/ESPN. Most hockey and baseball games aren’t broadcasted over the air. Back in 2006 to 2010 the channels for shows were desired. If you stop watching tv for one to two weeks then you may fall out of it and not know what’s going on and notice shows you watched aren’t there or they are. You subconsciously memorize how to watch tv and what shows. Even if they aren’t the same they’re similar on the same channel or seemed like it.

    • How did it get her credit card info if she only clicked "yes" boxes? Or was it linked to some other payment system that was set up on her system somehow (MS or Apple App Store or something)?

    • That is peak shittiness. Thank goodness your Mum has you to advocate, and I shudder to think of how many others don't and were shafted or continue to be shafted.

      Their competition for PDF Reader; Foxit, jacked their prices up considerably this last year too. It used to be an affordable alternative. They too got greedy (I assume since Adobe was getting away with it!) and have lost a considerable amount of customers in both the consumer end-users and the business side.

      PDF becomes increasingly more used and 'standard' with the fracturing of ability to edit them or do 'advanced' tasks like merging multiple PDFs.

      There are some alternatives which are free but also either Freemium or just plain questionable in their usage. I don't want to trust some random company and I don't want to be nickel and dimed for basic features like merge.

      I spent a long time testing and trying tools. Sadly nothing as comprehensive as what Acrobat offers, but not an option at their pricing. Same with Foxit. I use PDFsam for some basic merge stuff. An interesting project is also Stirling PDF. but pdfsam is like Freemium and Stirling I'm pretty requires docker and it's also not in all languages.

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