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I miss when Lemmy was a socialist platform. It's full of "vote blue no matter who" people now
I mean, voting blue no matter who is still in my best interest.
I hate it and it sucks, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.
This enables Democrats to do anything they want, like genocide.
We can't force Biden to stop because he believes you will vote blue no matter who.
It is 100% your fault that the protests and uncommitted vote have limited to no effect.
In a two party first past the post system, not voting (or throwing away your vote on a candidate who will not win) benefits the candidate you least want because it effectively gives half your vote to each side
In the general elections, voting blue no matter who is harm reduction, the time for activism was back in the primaries
Okay? The point I'm making, which you have totally ignored, is that votes are the only leverage that we have. By throwing my vote away the Democrats can't have it, and if enough people do that they lose. Supposedly they want to win, so they need to convince me to note vote for Aaron Bushnell this November. By deciding to enslave yourself to the Democrats and slavishly give them your support no matter what they have no reason to not get even worse. By next year they'll have moved even farther to the right and it will be your fault because you refused to use the only leverage you have to move them to the left.
Every election cycle the Democrats just become the Republicans from the last election cycle. Biden is doing genocide, violating international law by limiting asylum seekers, and marching us towards WW3. How much worse will they get if they aren't stopped?
and if enough people do that they lose
and then things get even worse for everyone, including Palestinians
There might not be Palestinians by November.
Oh ffs
And not voting for a major party will fix that how?
Even if a significant portion of the population goes third party (and assuming they all agree on the same party), splitting the vote has only ever helped the opposition.
And if Democrats are just Republicans from the last election cycle, which is an absolutely unhinged notion but I'll humor you anyway, voting for Democrats is still in my best interest since Republicans are even further right
You've legitimately lost your mind in a purity test if you can't see that.
Refusing to vote for genocide isn't a purity test.
Imagine if it was your family under the rubble. Would you vote for that just because the other guy might be worse?
Would you vote for that just because the other guy might be worse?
Yes, are you retarded? Like you've gotta be actually fucking stupid to be queer and think letting republicans win to punish dems is better for you, or Palestine. American politics is harm reduction, and the choice for less harm is clear.
I'm voting Dem downticket. Just not for Biden.
It's not like Biden has done fucking anything about Republicans attacking our rights in the State legislatures. When my red state decides to make it illegal to use the bathroom he won't do anything about it.
I'd still vote for him if he'd stop doing genocide, of course, but until then 🤷♀️
the time for activism was back in the primaries
you are only allowed to do activism once every eight years
There's primaries for federal elections every 2 years in the US, if you want to change the makeup of the party, vote for different candidates in them
Y'all attacked the uncommitted movement too and circled the wagons, ensuring it would fail to accomplish anything.
Thanks to you Biden knows he can do as much genocide as he wants and not lose any of your votes. You are to blame.
I never did, that's the least destructive way to let your displeasure be known, as long as you still vote for, and encourage others to vote for, the least bad candidates in the general elections (spoilers, the least bad candidates will pretty much universally be blue)
All this that does is ensure this election's Democrat is the same as last election's Republican, they constantly move as far to the right as you let them because they know they can count on your vote no matter what. You are making things worse. Maybe you, specifically, didn't speak out against uncommitted. The whole .world instance definitely did, though. We remember.
Don't forget that he's also made more progress on building the southern border wall and killing the asylum process than trump did in his 4 years. But he wears a blue tie (Good Guys) and that's all that really matters.
Also blowing up the Nordstream pipeline and putting sanctions on China's green transition.
Also drilling more oil than any other president in US history!
Ahh the ol CCP. Here we go.
No, no, DO go on.
The point that you are making is that you are a fascist little Untermensch.
Fascism is when you don't vote for genocide. 🇺🇸
Hey russian troll monkeys, get your heads out of your asses for four months!! That’s it!! Then you can jam ‘em right back up there. Promise.
Fucking sick of you GeNoSiDe JoE bullshit fuckheads. God fucking dammit you want trump so goddamned bad. Idiots! And claiming to be left! The stupidest possible take is the one you won’t shut up about. Almost like . . like you know it’s only going to divide people and suppress turnout. Fuck you.
I want the genocide to end and the only way for Biden to win is if he stops doing genocide.
Why doesn't Biden want to win?
Lol
There's no contradiction there. Being socialist doesn't make you stupid
Unless