Biden supporters mostly back him in 2024 election because they oppose Trump, poll finds
Biden supporters mostly back him in 2024 election because they oppose Trump, poll finds
Poll comes as the Biden campaign has ramped up its rhetoric in attacking Trump directly in recent weeks
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Biden won 2020 in spite of being Joe Biden, it's why it took almost 40 years for him to win his first presidential primary, people just don't ot want him as president.
Now that we've had him for four years, and he was worse than we expected...
I really don't think he can pull out another razor thin win like in 2020.
We're risking trump so we can have a Dem president that's more conservative than Dem voters want.
There's no logic behind it, except the donor class would rather have trump than a progressive. And just like AIPAC, they decided it's easiest to just buy both parties in the primary.
This is the third election and a row, it's not going to be different in 2028. If voters only requirement is "blue" then nothing is stopping either party from getting more and more conservative every election
Now that we've had him for four years, and he was worse than we expected...
He far exceeded my expectations.
In which ways? motions to everything being crap
- Massive infrastructure bill
- Student loan forgiveness
- Marijuana rescheduling
There’s plenty more, but my expectation was for him to not be Trump which he has thoroughly succeeded at. The rest is icing.
The biggest things he’s disappointed on, Trump disappoints on too…:
- Palestine
- Being too fucking old
…so it’s easy to see how that on balance he has exceeded expectations…
That bar was extremely low huh?
Yes. Being better than Trump is a low bar.
Are you confused about what’s happening here?
It would be nice if we actually had policies we could champion instead of just "not Trump".
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Honestly, no, it's not. We should have had those things decades ago.
This is like blaming Obama for his terrible response to Katrina.
I've seen the need to point this out: Dems have had all 3 (of house, senate, presidency) for 4 years out of the last 24 years. If you include Bill Clinton that goes to 6 years of the last 32 years. Want to add Bush senior? Then it’s 6 years of the last 36 years. Want to add Reagan? Then it’s 6 years of the last 44 years. That's right, 6 years out of the last 44 years that Dems had control. And for filibuster proof majority they had 4 months of the last 44 years. Not years, 4 MONTHS of the last 44 fucking years.
And you want to ask why things haven't happened?
If you want progress, give Dems consistent and overwhelming victories.
The bar was Trump
It’s silly to downvote you for wanting the leaders and representatives of a country and its people to be held to a certain standard.
I mean, politicians work for us. We're their boss. They should be working their asses off for the people.
Massive infrastructure bill that just funnels money to companies like Comcast and Spectrum and othet corporations who'll squander like they have every other time they've been given money
Student loan forgiveness that does nothing to change the insane and continually rising cost of attending college.
Marijuana rescheduling that does nothing to address the fact that 40 states have already legalized it for medical use and 25 states who've legalized it for recreational use.
This is little more than a bunch of empty gestures and lip service to make it seem like they're improving things when in reality, very little is changing (and to give people like you hollow talking points to list as accomplisments). This is why so many people don't even bother to vote anymore because the whole system is stacked against us.
Everyone has different standards and expectations.
Hell, look at how many people say that about trump.
Now that we’ve had him for four years, and he was worse than we expected
Biden's much better than I expected, after being disappointed in Obama and his poor negotiating skills.