'Not welcome here': Arab leaders cancel Dearborn meeting with Biden campaign manager
'Not welcome here': Arab leaders cancel Dearborn meeting with Biden campaign manager
A group meeting with President Joe Biden's campaign manager in Dearborn was canceled after an outcry but other meetings were expected to proceed.
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Trump. You are supporting Trump. Trump will ban Muslims again and not just the foreign ones.
Biden is not the one murdering Palestinians.
Bebe is.
Bebe and Trump are buddies. Bebe spoke directly to Congress to humiliate Obama to help Trump get elected. He chose sides and interfered in the US election. Because Bebe is a racist genocidal murderer.
Sometimes Presidents have to do difficult diplomacy. And it sucks.
But Trump is coming for all Muslims. Seriously. We cannot have Trump again.
An American election is a zero sum game. You are forced to pick the least crappy option.
The election is important BUT the president isn't and shouldn't be above criticism. He is not doing the killing but he's keeping the killers well stocked with weapons and ammunition, doing PR for them and undermining any attempt to stop the killing.
If this isn't something he should be criticised for I don't know what is
People who support genocide for its own sake will come up with any excuse to keep their indefensible positions from scrutiny.
People too stupid to understand how politics work would rather just insult everyone who doesn't hold the exact same narrow ignorant view that allows them to virtue signal.
You certainly are.
And were Biden stupid enough to cut aid to Israel he'd lose two to three times as many potential Votes as there are to gain from cutting off aid. But you don't care about that as purity is the only concern and consequences are for others to pay.
So continue the slaughter so he doesn't lose? I thought liberals claimed they were gonna hold their people accountable
In no way was that posted, but I do understand you wish it were.
Thats exactly what you said. "Who cares that 30k+ Palestinians are dead as long as Biden doesnt lose'
There is no need for you to be accurate as your goal is to sow discord.
Nope, you're the only one saying that. Claiming the moral high ground doesn't give you the right to make shit up.
It's not about purity you donut. It's about the fact that we're witnessing a fucking genocide with our own eyes and instead of being outraged by it and calling for an immediate stop, you're weighing political election outcomes.
Yes exactly. Seriously I get the need for tactical voting, but this is embarrassing. Anybody criticises the president of the United States for supporting a fucking genocide and we get a lecture about Trump and how we're going to spoil the election. Believe it or not some things are more important and Biden is failing in his duty as a president and a human being.
Should you still vote for him? Yes, obviously.
Does that mean we have to just stay quiet while he supports war crimes and much worse? Why the fuck should we
Because the consequences are more important than a feel good pyrrhic moral victory.
Only if you're American.
No, the consequences shall be felt around the world. Just as they were the last time idiots decided teaching a lesson was more important.
Biden is a politician. What else should we expect? He's not a great leader, or a moral paragon, or a persuasive debater. He's a politician.
The polling shows around 50/50 support toward Israel, and the separation is generational. Quite succintly, Biden is in a pickle. Unconditional support toward Israel could also cost him the election. I'd argue this can be used as a wedge issue against the Democratic Party.
Polling shows about 50% of Democratic voters view Israel's invasion of Gaza as a genocide, and 30% aren't sure yet, with only 20% viewing it as not a genocide.
Biden's actions don't reflect the vast majority of Democratic voters.
Not meeting with Biden =/= Voting for Trump
But let's not pretend this coverage doesn't have an impact on certain voters who throw their hands up and go, "ah hell they're all the same! I'm not voting!"
Right-wing operatives are already obviously seizing on this wedge-driving opportunity.
They whine about being called shrubs while they amplify the message Russia bots are also posting.
Just equals supporting his bid for power. And in turn supporting lil' dic. pootie and fash baby bibi as they are who gain should you succeed in bringing Biden down.
As far as centrists are concerned, anything other than worship of everything Biden does is a vote for Trump.
The US is funding and providing the weapons to kill Palestinians, resources Biden can withhold if he chooses to. Biden may not be pulling the trigger any more than Netanyahu is, but he is responsible for their deaths, and should be held accountable
Congress controls foreign aid. It's usually bundled such that it's part of a larger funding bill. There's very little Biden can do without opening a can of worms.
That is incorrect the foreign military financing program authorizes the president to finance procurement of defense articles and services for foreign countries and international organizations. Israel's $11 million per day welfare check and the arms they are provided is at the purview of the president. It's the exact same tactic that Ronald Reagan used in 1982 to stop Israel carpet bombing Lebanon. He threatened to pull back all monetary and weapons aid from the US, the bombing stopped.
Congress only controls foreign aid when it's initially approved. After it's approved, it's at the president's discretion if that funding gets cut
Religious people? Being blatantly stupid? You don't fucking say!
Here an alternative point of view:
As democrat who cares about the country you should help force your leadership to stop the genocide or stop aid and sale of arms if you want my vote.
So facilitating the murder of millions of muslims is ok, but not letting them enter your country is worse?
Muslims and Republicans have more uncommon than they like to admit. So they won’t find 4 years of Trump a big problem. Especially the ones that live in the big Muslim communities that aren’t facing much discrimination.
They agree on a lot of things - but the color of their skin and the god they respectively worship is a real big divide.
For anyone on the outside who doesn’t care which god or skin color, they look practically identical.
That's not true. Muslims agree with Republicans on LGBT rights and similar things, but that's about it. There's a reason Michigan Arabs tend to vote Democrat and speaking as a Muslim that's probably because Republican nonsense like "being poor is personal responsibility and nobody has any responsibility to help you" doesn't resonate with Muslims.
Abortion, abstinence, women’s subservience. American Arabs vote democrat because the republicans would be happy if they were dead.
But if you asked a practicing Muslim and a republican for their views on a wide range of issues except which god you worship, you’ll find there are many more similarities than you are suggesting.
Famous for their distributing the wealth to people who need it, the UAE, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar are positively wonderful places for the working class 🙄
Famous for their distributing the wealth to people who need it, the UAE, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar are positively wonderful places for the working class 🙄
I mean those countries aren't the shining examples of Islam at work so yeah. Gulf countries are like famous for this.
Which countries are shining examples of Islam at work? I’m having a hard time coming up with any that don’t have staggering wealth inequality.
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We had a leader the west didn't like so they backed a coup that put in a corrupt dictator that they liked
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We had a leader the soviets didn't like so they backed a coup that put a corrupt dictator in charge that they liked
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The country came out of a coup and installed a popular leader that didn't want to play ball with the west for various reasons, so the west sanctioned the country until its economy barely functioned
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A colony was given an independence "deal" that forces them to adopt their former colonizers currency, put about half of their reserves in said former colonizers bank, and forced the newly "independent" country to sell the extraction of its natural resources to companies from the former colonizer at disgustingly cheap prices, so what should be a rich country is still poor and the officials of this former colony are bribed by the colonizers to keep the system going.
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The wealthy oil nations used their wealth to give their citizens an extremely good standard of living however either as a result of this or of other reasons (possibly related to culture but thats a different conversation), no one wanted to do menial labor so here comes the importation of cheap foreign labor
King Faisal Abdul-Aziz was a descent leader that tried to unite the middle east but he was assassinated.
And Islam allows abortion with different kinds of restrictions depending on your school of thought
Is one of those restrictions that the woman, who can’t go anywhere without a male relative, has no say?
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Most are dictatorships so the attitude of the government doesn't reflect much except how greedy the elites are, but charity is big in Muslim countries. The whole "pull yourself up by your bootstraps and if you rely on others you're a leech" attitude doesn't really resonate with Muslims.
That said, if I had to raise an example I'd probably pick Tunisia. Not that they don't have wealth inequality or poverty, but they're doing decently well for themselves and have a government that's actually trying to fix these things.
Also almost all of the non-Gulf Arab world has significant social welfare to my knowledge.
Charity is a big talking point for Rs too, they just don’t think the state should do any of it. Lots of them still tithe.
the least crappy option is cornel west
No. Cornel West has no experience in public office and the Presidency isn't the place to learn on the job.
how much experience did Eisenhower have in public office?
your standard is arbitrary and irrational.
Eisenhower led multiple armies totaling in the millions in the largest war in human history. Cornel West has a background in *checks notes philosophizing.
Lincoln never held public office. lots of presidents make it their first political job.
edit: whoops. still, my point stands: there is no reason to expect anyone to have experience being president in order to elect them.
Abraham Lincoln served as member of the Illinois House of Representatives from 1 December 1834 until 4 December 1842, representing Sangamon County. He went on to serve in to United States House of Representatives for Illinois' seventh district from 4 March 1847 to 3 March 1849. His time in between was spent practicing law. I know you're just trying to be disingenuous, but please stop.
your accusation of disingenuousness is, itself, bad faith
Who says I would have supported Eisenhower for office?
I would have voted for Adlai Stevenson in that election.
Apparently neither is being VP.