American XL bully dogs to be banned after attacks, Rishi Sunak says
American XL bully dogs to be banned after attacks, Rishi Sunak says
Campaigners have welcomed the move to outlaw the breed they argue is "a clear and present threat to public health", but concerns have been raised it may not be practical and lead to other kinds of dogs being prohibited.
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I'm not a dog breed expert, but...
The other day an agressive dog that looked like a pitbull, suddenly lunged at me barking loudly... It was about 10ft away from me but still scared the shit out of me
The owner yanked the dog back on its leash and i thought, "FML, the only thing that saved me from a deadly mauling was a 3/4 inch wide piece of nylon with a metal clip the guy bought off amazon for $5"
"But my little velvet hippo couldn't hurt anyone!"
Hippos are super aggressive, territorial, and will bite a crocodiles in half. It’s amazing that’s supposed to be a cute, disarming nickname for a breed notorious for the same traits.
It's also the most deadliest land mammal, the hippo that is.
Pretty sure that is technically humans, but hippos are definitely a second.
To be fair most won’t, but they definitely can and do.
Especially when they are jaws on legs that are more inclined compared to other dogs.
Yup. I've crunched the numbers before, and it's something like 1 in 10,000 pit bulls will attack a human or other companion animal every year. It's not likely for any given pit to attack a person (which I can anecdotally support–they're obnoxiously friendly and loving in my experience), but it's also like 10 times more than the next most vicious breed. In my opinion, it's not worth euthanizing every member of the breed, but it is worth neutering every one. We don't need dog breeds, especially ones responsible for over half of the violent attacks on people and other animals.
Of course, I'm in support of neutering all companion animals to reduce the stray population and ease the strain on shelters, regardless of breed or species. Breed specific laws are only one step towards fixing the larger problem.
Of course, I’m in support of neutering all companion animals to ease the stray population and the strain on shelters, regardless of breed or species. Breed specific laws are only one step towards fixing the larger problem.
Bob Barker is smiling down on you from heaven for this
Don't you think that pit bull attacks are dangerous and cause medical trauma which leads to reporting of the attack? I think it's likely that they don't attack people more than any other dog breed. I was bit by a black lab mix. I didn't report it to anyone. If it had been a pit bull I probably would have needed medical attention.
It's actually not the strongest bite. And not the only breed with a locking jaw. It is the breed with a reputation though...
A reputation of the most kills.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States
Yes. Built by shitty people doing shitty things to these dogs because they like that fact about them.
As you've pointed out the dogs are perfectly capable of being lovey couch potatoes. The problem isn't the dog it's the people. The breed has a reputation. And the people who like that are just going to move on to the next breed after this one is gone.
I must be unlucky because I have yet not run into one that didn't try to kill me if not for the muzzle or them being a puppy or a fence.
The actual issue is that's it's a degenerative disease in dogs of similar breeds. At some point they get old and less able to recognize friend from foe. That might be ok if it weren't for the jaws you mentioned.
Exactly.
I'd go one step farther and even say if they even had the same amount of attacks as other dogs, had no possible mental diseases, and all want to caring homes I would still put restrictions/ban on them.
They are just too large to handle, too big of a bite to brush off, and end up in dog attacks a lot. That's enough for me.
I'm gonna need a source on that.
Cerebellar Cortical Disintegration or Degenerative Myelopathy could exacerbate a situation.
I unexpectedly found this on the genetic mapping of aggression which seemed interesting: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4977763/
That's a great article...
However the only examples of aggression being related to breed is with Daschands and Yorkies, although the study says that's likely just to that specific gene also making legs shorter.
While there is a genetic component to aggression, it's variation is pretty standard amongst all dogs, except the tiny ones who may have accidentally been selected for it.
But someone asked you for a source for a cognitive thing and you just randomly linked an article about how breed doesn't determine behavior?
Did you know what that article was about before you linked it?___
However, it is also notable that a subset of large breeds carries the chrX reduced-fear/aggression and increased-size variants in perfect LD.
I know reading is hard, friend! I linked that as it was the most interesting thing I found while looking off there were other degenerative diseases common in pitbulls, while not being pitbull specific. Did you think me finding evidence contrary to my beliefs would result in me hiding it?
I'd give you snarky "let me Google that for you" on the degenerative diseases as they're genuinely interesting, but I guess you'll never know what they're about since you can type a comment but not use a search engine.
People were talking about pitbulls, they average 60lbs, they're not a "subset of large breeds" like Rottweilers who average 120lbs...
You're not being coherent, just trying to jump between "gotchas".
Just randomly jumping all over
You're right, pitbulls are medium not large, sorry. Nevertheless the study was interesting. Again, wasn't trying to make a point with it, it was the most genuinely interesting thing I found in my short search about the subject of aggression in dogs. Sorry you don't agree.
But since you're having so much fun chatting with me:
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=Cerebellar+Cortical+Disintegration
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=Degenerative+Myelopathy
It’s funny they call them hippos considering that hippos are extremely dangerous and vicious wild animals.
And hippos too are known to turn on their human caretakers out of nowhere.
That's funny because hippos kill more people than dogs
13000 vs 500 a year. So not really close. But hippos are more dangerous than most people think!
In total? Doubt it.
A shitbull owner using a leash, rare combination.
blame the owner not the dog
Blame both if the dog is a known dangerous breed.
Blame the parents not the serial killer.
not if that is sarcasm or not, but most likely there was no pitull in that that dog.
Based on what?
many many studies have shown that people can breeds apart.
not sarcasm at all...
regardless of breed, this dog looked like he was about to fuck up my whole day, so my point stands
as does my point.
I was walking my dog through my neighborhood once, and one of my stupid ass neighbors had his dog loose in his garage with the door open across the street. When it saw me, it charged at us, barking aggressively. It didn’t attack me, it just stood a few feet away baring its teeth and barking while his overweight owner waddled over to it armed with a sandle. I think it was a labrador.
If it was a pitbull though I’d likely be missing a limb or two today.
That feeling is the absolute worst. Happened to me over three years ago and I still don't feel good around pitbulls.
My old apartment was on the 2nd floor and all the doors were on a straight path barely wide enough for one person to walk down. The other side of the path was a low guard rail directly over the parked cars below.
One day my neighbor opened his apartment door and didn't see that I was walking right outside his door carrying fried food in a bag. His large as fuck pitbull lunged hard at me so fast before his owner pulled back on his chained leash. The dog was within an inch of pushing me off the side of my apartment building and directly into a car below us. The guy never apologized. Would have followed up on it but it was during the beginning of covid and was in the middle of moving out.
I've been paranoid around pitbulls since then.