Finland notifies UN of withdrawal from landmine ban treaty
Finland notifies UN of withdrawal from landmine ban treaty
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Less notifying, more eastern border landmine covering!
Oh, it wasn't the UN that was the intended recipient of that particular message. That's why it was sent publicly...
You typically need to notify other members of a treaty of your withdrawal, and then there's some time delay until you're no longer bound by the terms. You can't just secretly withdraw, or treaties wouldn't be very meaningful.
EDIT: Yeah. The submitted article says that it happens in six months from today, and here's the treaty text on withdrawal:
Article 20
Duration and withdrawal
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This Convention shall be of unlimited duration.
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Each State Party shall, in exercising its national sovereignty, have the right to withdraw from this Convention. It shall give notice of such withdrawal to all other States Parties, to the Depositary and to the United Nations Security Council. Such instrument of withdrawal shall include a full explanation of the reasons motivating this withdrawal.
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Such withdrawal shall only take effect six months after the receipt of the instrument of withdrawal by the Depositary. If, however, on the expiry of that six- month period, the withdrawing State Party is engaged in an armed conflict, the withdrawal shall not take effect before the end of the armed conflict.
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The withdrawal of a State Party from this Convention shall not in any way affect the duty of States to continue fulfilling the obligations assumed under any relevant rules of international law.
Point 3 looks like a pretty obvious poison pill. That is: Russia could conceivably start some sort of grey-zone conflict with Finland before the 6-month period, and thus (per international law) tie Finland’s hands in their use of defensive land mines.
In Finland’s shoes, it’d be prudent to just go “yeah we’re breaking the treaty, and were specifically ignoring Article 20 Section 3 due to urgent national security considerations”.
Absolutely! You are quite right. However, my interpretation of this message is not necessarily "we might reconsider our stance on troop mines". Rather it is: "we will go to any lengths, even those we find barbaric and cruel, to defend our nation". Although on the face of it, it is the wording of the agreement that sets the formalities.
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"Intended recipient" doesn't deserve to be notified. Unless you're talking about Sweden, but I somehow doubt that :)
Yes they do. This is a deterrent, not a last-ditch effort to protect ourselves if war breaks out.
Mines are NOT "deterrent". Strong army? Yes. Nuclear weapons? Yes. Mines are a minor nuisance during the war. Makes things uncomfortable, might slow down enemy movement a bit but that's it. You can't say to the potential enemy "Forget about attacking -- we have mines near the border".
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I'm from Ukraine, so I'm armed with common sense and a quite realistic point of view on the situation.
So ironic, or perhaps more disingenous, to say that as people try to defend themselves from the Russians.
When did blahaj become the new tankie instance?
said the guy ( @neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) from anarchist instance downvoting replies talking down on people in disguise being in favor of others favoring Trump a common single user doesnt define a whole instance, your instance is great but your take.. 🤭
Lmaooo did you just stalk my profile because I downvoted your comment? That's fucking embarassing my dude!
I downvoted your comment because it gave me strong gatekeeping vibes (realy canadians don't xyz)
realy canadians don’t xyz
you are just trying to picture a whole group of people to be like you say again. also poorly elaborated and mispelling i wouldnt be surprised if you are from a troll farm
This is your comment that I downvoted:
oddly one of your downvotes come from a lemmy.ca user @usr@lemmy.ca which is odd any sane Canadian wouldn't be mad about such question
oddly one of your downvotes come from a lemmy.ca user @usr@lemmy.ca which is odd any sane Canadian wouldn't be mad about such question
But I am "just trying to picture a whole group of people to be like you say" for disagreeing and downvoting you?
How does this need elaboration? Especially since this is your own comment?
i wouldnt be surprised if you are from a troll farm
Ditto. You're either a Troll or special.
so you put up my reply but not the comment which i replied to have more context? kudos to trying to picture yourself not being the troll
Answer my comment or stop. But don't jump from topic to topic. I won't play play chess with a pidgeon.
Have a nice day. May you find a poor soul other than mine to annoy.
1 month troll account? I doubt anyone could be this unhinged from reality
We don't wish anyone to forcibly cross that border. Being a defensive and preventative measure is the whole point...