"They’re taking Shirly": An Army sergeant thought his family as safe. Then ICE deported his wife.
"They’re taking Shirly": An Army sergeant thought his family as safe. Then ICE deported his wife.
For tens of thousands of US service members with undocumented family members, there’s no guaranteed protection from immigration raids.
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not that I'm encouraging it but I'm kind of surprised that there hasn't been more violent attacks on ice officers
Small-scale violence excites and emboldens fascism. It will not stop it.
All I’m hearing is that we should be using large-scale violence.
We’ve done it before.
The OG Antifa?
Absolutely.
And honestly, I’m convinced that that generation more or less fully dying out in the last decade or so (and I mean across the western world, not just in the states) was a pretty direct cause of this fascist resurgence, because everyone who was a part of getting rid of fascism the hard way last time around is in the ground.
The thought does scare me and even though I'm pretty sure it has its critics, that 80 year cycle thing does make me wonder - given the (current) average human lifespan, there might be something to it.
All that wisdom dies off and has to be re-learned. Kind of like all the idiots learning about vaccines right now.
If we can get large scale protest, we won’t need violence.
https://www.hks.harvard.edu/centers/carr/publications/35-rule-how-small-minority-can-change-world
I'm talking about defending yourself, not attacking anything.
not that I'm encouraging it but I'm kind of surprised that there hasn't been more violent attacks on ice officers
My comment is condemning the violence mentioned above, regardless of motive.
Violent response vilifies the citizen against the officer ‘doing their job.’ That is leveraged to strengthen laws that protect officers, used as more propaganda to grow support for the right, and costs us another resister to incarceration.
People need to stop suggesting response with emotion and read history. Small scale resistance against fascism has never been successful.
Again.. no one reads.
I’m fully aware of your personal disclosure. That’s why I wrote “people” and not “you.” I was answering your question. Are you always condescending when you don’t understand the context of a reply?
Oh man, this is the same guy that told me to stop saying what I want to say (oppress my right to free speech) and then resorted to childish name-calling (called me an ass). A bully just like trump. Dude's all mixed up.
I don't care if someone disagrees with me. I'll listen to someone who can make valid points, but that's not what a bully does.
I didn't ask a question, I made a statement. Again, no one reads.
You’re a spectacular dick, aren’t you?
No, I just don't have patience for people that don't pay attention to shit and insist they are right.
I wasn’t debating you, dumbass. I was substantiating why more people aren’t committing violence against ICE, and why it’s important it stays that way.
You’re right. No one reads.