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Just discovered this (first link random):
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Terhan+clock+israel+wiki&t=fpas&ia=web
It's hard to set points in this story but let's try it.
Israel now is kinda theocratic state with a fascist in charge indeed, but Iran it's no second to it. I hear many talking shit about Us imperialism, never heard a word about China, Russia or Iran's one.
Iran is indeed a threat to Isreal (yeah, I know, those dictatorships like to flex bit they're much worse than they depict). And its imperialism drove to 7/10.
Israel has in my opinion the right to face Iran, what's mad is how they're facing Hamas/Palestinians instead. But we said no? Bibi is fascist to the bones.
Still, Israel doesn't want to destroy Iran and has never set a clock to Iran's destruction.
Israel doesn't want to destroy Iran
Tell that to all the Israeli politicians calling for Tehran to burn, and bibi saying that they're trying to kill the Supreme leader.
Israel definitely wants to force some sort of regime change in Iran. Multiple Israeli politicians have posed with the pretender shah saying he's coming back any day now, and they've tried to decapitate the top of the Islamic Republic multiple times hoping it will instigate some sort of revolution.
And that's good for Iran.
Just cause Bibi's Isreal is shit it doesn't mean getting rid of Ayatollah is a good move. It's good for Isreal, for Iran and everybody else except fucking Russia and those terrorists like Hamas or Hezbollah.
Not necessarily, depends on what replaces it. If it's replaced by a functional secular democracy then yeah that would be better for Iran, but thats probably the least likely scenario. Most likely it will either be replaced by:
- A new dictatorship after a civil war, tons of Iranians die and not much improvement is made to the quality of life in the end. Maybe the new dictatorship is more secular but it could also get rid of some of the democratic elements in the current regime.
- Iran turns into a factionalized failed state like Libya or Syria, kept in a perpetual civil war by greater powers using it as a playground to test their newest military equipment.
2 is the scenario Israel wants, as whatever regime takes power will probably be anti-israel after this latest attack so itd be better for them if that regime doesnt have any power. Its also the most likely to happen if the ayatollah regime falls during this war as the mossad has shown they have a lot of capacity in iran to engineer this result. It's also the worst scenario for the Iranian people.
It's fun when people likes the status quo of a brutal dictatorship cause "it can happen bad things without it".
It's a possibility of course, but keeping the already weak Ayatollah regime up is nothing anybody would prefer.
Persia has been around for a minute or two, taking down this government doesn't end Iran
Yeah, and jews have lived peacefully on Palestine for a while prior to zionism, the destruction of the Jewish state doesn't mean an end to jews living in Palestine.
This is assuming that you think "destruction of israel" means destruction of the apartheid Israeli state, which is what I think they mean by it. Israel could also refer to all the jews in Palestine, in which case destruction would mean genocide, that is probably what most Israelis think they mean by it. Depends on how cynical / what side your on as to what you belive Israel refers to.
I think that those in the occupied territories are more likely to want the latter as they've had more antisemitism bread into them by both there culture and repeated bombings by Israel and violence from settlers, but still a majority would want the former. Iran is further from the destruction caused and is more likely to view Israel how the US views Iran, run by a bad regime that once it's toppled will stop it's aggressive ways.
To my knowledge, Iran and other middle east countries are part of the no nuclear NPT treaties with the US. The only one that isn't a member of these treaties is Israel. There is no real proof, despite them trying to pull a W Bush 'they have nukes' lies-to-war propaganda, Iran has any nuclear weapons. Do you know who does? Israel.
It is worth noting, though, that Iran did just refuse to meet their obligations under that non-proliferation agreement (regular inspections of nuclear infra, etc) for the first time since 2003.
But I do agree that there's worrying echoes of the Iraq war here, given Israel seems to be the only country claiming to have evidence of active nuclear weapons development
That's probably cause of the link I just posted?
They say in every possible way the want to destroy Israel, would you believe them cause they are part of a program?
And russia. They may have 'mispaced' a couple in exchange for some drones.