Luigi Mangione pleads not guilty to murdering healthcare CEO
Luigi Mangione pleads not guilty to murdering healthcare CEO
The 26-year-old suspect is facing separate federal charges that could lead to a death sentence.
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This makes me believe it really wasn't him. If he actually wrote a manifesto, he'd have declared himself guilty, taken credit, and done a speech about how he was now a martyr for the cause.
If he's sticking to his story, then I believe him. They couldn't find the real killer so they just went with whoever "fit the description", as per usual.
Innocent until proven guilty. It's the government's job to prove him guilty. He doesn't have to help them.
If Innocent until proven guilty, why the fuck do we lock people up to await their court date?
Because it makes money, and a splash of long standing racism
You can plug this answer verbatim into almost any "why does the US do this bad thing?"
Of course it was him. That doesn't mean from a legal perspective he is best served by pleading guilty. Pleading not guilty also means he'll get a jury trial and his lawyers can introduce evidence that embarrasses private health insurance providers, or proves his state of mind, or otherwise casts doubt.
Wouldn’t be surprised if he was in New York on some legitimate business, they caught him on camera at a Starbucks near the murder, blasted his image all over the news and social media, and just waited for someone to call.
Then when they got the call, they grabbed a backpack with “evidence” and claimed he had it on him when they arrested him.
Did anyone believe that he was wondering around for 3 days with a bag that was holding the murder weapon, fake IDs, and a hand written manifesto? He ditched another bag, and escaped on an e-bike. Why would he then run around for three days with the rest of the evidence.
Either he is the dumbest man alive, or the police really wanted to just go with the first guy who fit the description knowing that they'll look like heroes to their corporate overlords, and that if another guy bites the dust they can just say it was a copycat.
I tend to think it's because they charged him as a terrorist. I assume it's a different law in which case he might be able to prove it's not terrorism.
Personally, I am sad that is all it takes for you to believe something. Businesses, media, governments, and more are trying to make people believe things (unrelated to luigi) that aren't true. You need to raise the bar, not lower it. Maybe you want to believe he didn't do it, but I hope you don't actually believe that based on so little information.
There's too much that doesn't add up, it's just too convenient that he had the gun and manifesto on him.
That’s now how it works: In the US “justice”-system there are only extremely limited cases where it makes sense to plead guilty, because it pretty much just means that you skip the trial and get sentenced directly. Especially if you want Jury-nullification, you have to plead non-guilty so that the Jury can find you innocent despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
What overwhelming evidence in this case? The evidence made public definitely seems to imply he's not the one who shot the CEO.
Why would a person take such a carefully planned route through the city to Central Park, change clothes and dump their bag, only to keep their gun, fake IDs and hand written manifesto/confession on their person three days later while eating lunch at a restaurant? If Luigi was the shooter and looking to take credit as what has been released of the manifesto implies, why hide out for three days instead of publicly turning themselves in after informing the press so it's recorded and likely televised?
That doesn't explain why he keeps mogging the camera, or what he yells to the journalist in that one video.
I don't know if it's him, but I think whoever it is, is just following their lawyer's advice, not trying to be a martyr
The thing is they've actually made a mistake charging him with terrorism. It is surprisingly narrowly defined so even without a sympathetic jury he might get a not guilty verdict for it and it weakens the whole case against him. But most of all by including it they've made all his intentions and politics central issues to the case. All the evidence and his statements about this will have to go into the public record. If he had pleaded guilty that wouldn't happen nor would there be a chance for jury annulment. Pleading not guilty is simply the smarter option to take.
That's the one thing that tells me he's not just going to walk, he's going to walk on fucking water where he'll be able to look down to see the Prosecution drowning
A jury could just find him not guilty on that one count but guilty on all others. Not seeing how it weakens any other part of the case.
I think it's along the lines of 'if the prosecution presented an accusation that is obviously false, how well standing is the rest of the case'
If I were in the jury, a case that is part bullshit would definitely compel me to think again about how well the investigation was done
Hope this is true
I mean, if he can away with it while not undermining his original intentions, why not do it?
There's various ways he could go unpunished that would prevent a retrial and so he'd then be set up to be influential in some kind of healthcare reform.
Heavy on the cope though.