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That episode had such a high body count, who can say?

I think people can forget just how bloodthirsty RTD can be.

"Eurovision meets Die Hard" is giving me "Voyage of the Damned" energy for some reason.

I did NOT have "Trinity Wells, Supervillain" on my season Bingo card...

That's super helpful, thanks - this article was frustratingly vague.

I watched this late last night - I hadn't really looked at the BTS videos for the other episodes (why the hell would you not just roll it into "Unleashed"?!), but this was pretty entertaining.

Stick around for another cheeky cameo in the “don’t forget to click and subscribe” part, too 🙂

Definitely the highlight.

Goodness, that is hilarious.

Best guess...Mrs. Flood is collecting side-characters from the Gatwa run. Time to do a quick draft!

• The Church on Ruby Road: Davina McCall
• Space Babies: Poppy
• The Devil's Chord: Ringo Starr
• Boom: Mundy Flynn (gotta keep Varada busy)
• 73 Yards: Roger Ap Gwilliam
• Dot & Bubble: Lindy
• Rogue: One of the bird people, I guess
• The Legend of Ruby Sunday: Colonel Chidozie
• Empire of Death: That woman with the imaginary baby
• Joy to the World: The hotel manager
• The Robot Revolution: Alan
• Lux: The kid who worked at the diner
• The Well: Mo
• Lucky Day: Conrad
• The Story & The Engine: The merchant played by Inua Ellams

Extraneous Avengers Assemble!

Okay, I jest in a lot of cases, but I think a few of those are actually potential candidates to reappear...

An interdimensional immigrant using our healthcare (and I’ll bet Mrs Flood doesn’t even pay taxes)!

Conrad's not gonna like that...

It was a BQ riding, not CPC.

I've always assumed (based on nothing, really) that Chibnall preferred the "Last of the Time Lords" gimmick, and took the opportunity to restore it.

And I get it, to an extent. But Moffat had spent a lot of time resolving that and bringing Gallifrey back, and I was looking forward to occasional Time Lord nonsense.

The market looked great, and was shot really well. I absolutely believed they were outdoors in Lagos.

The street in front of the barbershop, on the other hand...that absolutely looked like a soundstage.

The Timeless Child accomplished its goal of opening up a world of storytelling possibilities, should anyone choose to play in that sandbox - and RTD has done so sparingly, but consistently since his return to the franchise.

It's definitely bizarre that Chibnall himself didn't do anything with the idea besides put it out there. But all in all, I'm way madder about him re-destroying Gallifrey than I am about anything to do with the Timeless Child.

Pretty goofy take. As much as the Timeless Child is a "controversial" story, the Fugitive Doctor has been just about as universally-embraced as you can get.

Edit: I should clarify - the article itself is fine. The headline writer definitely tried to milk the "controversy" aspect of things, which...is what headline writers do.

This was one of the really unique episodes that defies description, and frankly I'm impressed you got as much mileage out of it as you did. I don't think I have much to add. To revisit the comparison I made yesterday, it does share some things in common with one of my favourites, "Demons of the Punjab", in its otherworldly vibes.

Edit: Actually, no. It's not just otherworldly vibes. It's that plus an exploration of a culture that's not my own.

The Fugitive Doctor! For all of thirty seconds!

The little line/quip about her story maybe being complete one day made me chuckle - and of course, the Doctor's story being neverending is part of the resolution.

There is some of the same subject matter and deftness here as in some of Neil Gaiman’s better work — and that’s all we need say about him.

Yeeeeeeeeah, I had the same thought. This sort of subject matter is something that Gaiman - scandal noted - excelled at.

And I have to agree, this season just might be an "all killer, no filler" season to rival the Ten/Donna season or Eleven's first season.

Flood Watch 2025

Uh...she goes to the hospital sometimes.

Instead they showed him as normal, then suddenly revealed him to be horrible, and did a little flashback.

I mean he was kind of horrible from the very first scene, with the "miss" bullshit and his comment about girls being bad at math. He was never showed as normal.

But, then they included the racism, but only in a “dream sequence”? That both acknowledges that the racism was massive in the 1950s, but somehow simultaneously pretends that in the “real world” it didn’t exist?

Again, no. They acknowledged that the diner was segregated - it just so happened that the employee and grieving mother didn't care. There were people who weren't fans of segregation at that time.

But, he has never taunted someone who was captured before. Much more doctorish would have been to attempt to reform him.

"The Family of Blood" anyone? "The Christmas Invasion"?

wat

It's a Federal program that's intended to end jurisdictional bullshit over support for off-reserve First Nations children, which has been...less than successful.

I hadn't thought of it before, but there are aspects of this description that are similar to "Demons of the Punjab". That was hands-down my favourite Thirteenth Doctor episode, so I'm very intrigued by this one.

There's absolutely no reason to think any show is being made "instead of" another.

Edit: And as Newsome herself stated, this series has not been greenlit. It may not get made at all.

I don’t think you needed [sic]

Just wanted to make sure - I stumbled over that sentence when reading it!