Germans be like
smegforbrains @ smegforbrains @lemmy.ml Posts 7Comments 110Joined 2 yr. ago
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No it's not possible at the moment because there's a law in place called the "Atomgesetz" which would have to be changed first and there is no support in the populace for that. Five of the six power plants that have been shutdown in the past few years could technically be restarted in 1-2 years but the 2000 personnel required are not available anymore, and won't come back if there's no perspective for next couple of years. This perspective does not exist in Germany at the moment, since the plan is to move to renewables and green hydrogen power plants.
Still it didn't happen and we have to deal with the situation at hand. I don't think there's value in discussing a scenario that is not reality in Germany.
I don't think that's right. There is a real threat from e.g Plutonium 239 which is extremely carcinogenic and toxic in minute doses.
Here's a collection of threats relating to nuclear power production and it's waste starting on page 112: https://www.isi.fraunhofer.de/content/dam/isi/dokumente/ccv/2013/ETTIS_Deliverable_4_4_Catalogue%20of%20Threat%20Scenarios.pdf
What's your argument here? That this could have happened in Germany also? It's true, but it didn't happen here, so we have to deal with the situation at hand.
I don't think you did. You resorted to personal attacks and evasion, without citing a single source or arguments to support your views or undermine mine.
That's not a helpful argument to support your opinion
I'm not trying to have a conversation I'm trying to have s civil discussion
You maybe but I am not. I will keep asking you for arguments or credible sources to support your opinion or to undermine mine.
Again I'm not trying to have an argument. I'm trying to convince you to engage in a civil discussion. And I do think it's very healthy to support opinions with arguments and sources instead of evasion and personal attacks.
So try to elaborate what kind of opinion your trying to support when you say "Have a gold star". It's this in support of your opinion or is it to undermine mine?
I don't understand what you are trying to say
Yes and I have cited your other comments as well. That's what a credible source is.
And btw calling my point dumb is IMHO a personal attack. Next time try something like: I don't think your point is valid, because...[insert argument]
So calling me "unable to read" and"unable to comprehend" and all of Germany imbeciles is not a personal attack. I beg to differ.
Yes I do think so. My opinion is that you don't know how to have a civil discussion. I think you should read that very carefully, since you succumb to logical fallacies all the time and do not provide arguments or cite credible sources in support of your opinion.
"I think that your point is dumb". Next time try something like: "I think your point is not valid" and it won't be a personal attack.
Did you read that? Do you have a counter argument to offer? Are you willing to engage in a civil discussion?
Yes but still no argument and still just a personal attack.
That's why Germany wants to phase out coal next after nuclear energy production has been phased out in 2023. In 2038 coal is planned to be completed passed out and be replaced by climate neutral energy consisting of renewables and green hydrogen gas power plants until 2045.
BTW mining uranium is in no way better than mining coal: https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/what-are-health-and-environmental-impacts-mining-and-enriching-uranium
Hers a little primer on the differences of discussion and arguments: https://langeek.co/en/grammar/course/1069/argument-vs-discussion
You were clearly arguing, while I was trying to keep the discussion civil by citing sources and offering data and arguments to support my opinion.
Right. During normal operation the risks are minute, but what about threat scenarios outside of normal operation? Starting on page 112 here's a list of possible threat scenarios as compiled by the Fraunhofer institute: https://www.isi.fraunhofer.de/content/dam/isi/dokumente/ccv/2013/ETTIS_Deliverable_4_4_Catalogue%20of%20Threat%20Scenarios.pdf
That's also true. But again, being in opposition of using nuclear power plants as long as there is no long term storage facility, does not mean I'm a coal proponent. Coal will be phased out in 2038 and the idea is to build 40 green hydrogen power plants, to enable the transition. There will be no new coal power plants build in Germany according to the current plan.