lemmytellyousomething @ lemmytellyousomething @lemmy.dbzer0.com

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As I said: Neither you nor me are the ones who will classify whether it is a genocide or not. Feel free to use the word. I won't for now...

It's interesthing how both sides think, I'm at least partially against them.....

"Jesus. You're a lost cause"

I assume, you don't want to tell me what's wrong with the quote of me? I re-read it 4 times... You could argue against "don't want to negotiate", because they might have to do so during this conflict... But the main goal that Hamas defined is the destruction of Israel... How do you want to negotiate the bigger picture of this conflict with them? "ok, destroy us, but only 49% of our area"?

Hamas has constantly advocated for the total destruction of Israel. That's their main goal. I think, your view is that Netanyahu wants to conquer all the Palestine area? They want something similar. They want to conquer all the Israel area...

Hamas did not even attack the Israeli government last year. They attacked pretty much only civilians.

What do you call that? You use the crazy words (facist, apartheid, genocide, Hitler, ...) quickly, but don't agree that Hamas is a terror organization??? Seriously???

Hamas is a pain in the ass for Israel and also for the people in Gaza. They use their own people as human shields. They don't even want to negotiate. They want to destroy Israel.

My view: Hamas in power is a guarantee that this will go on for many more decades.

Just curious because you wrote "dispassionate observer"... Do you think that you can put yourself in the place of both sides? Can you understand why Israel didn't just stand still after the massacre last year? Can you understand that they would like to solve the Hamas problem once and for all (the HOW is of course always debatable) to not get attacked again?

Do you want to challenge your beliefs?

Compared with others here, I think, I can actually understand the dilemma on both sides.

I hope, that Hamas loses power first and then Netanyahu. I think, this is the only way that can lead to peace in that region in the future. Otherwise, this will continue for even more decades. Hamas' main motto is still the total destruction of Israel. And Netanyahu's seddling strategy is also terrible if you want a solution.

But what's your idea to solve this? It's a complex conflict that is happening for decades and you and others act like it's easy to solve it... If the terror organization Hamas keeps power, you can already put an event into your calendar when the next rockets will hit Israel.... With other words: What's YOUR strategy to get rid of Hamas?

You wrote or copy-pasted a lot of stuff, but...

the first part is not about concentration camps.

the 2nd one is about terrible discrimination, not about what I wrote.

and the 3rd part is about a 2.000 years old book. Really? Some chapters in there probably explain in detail how many goats or sheep we need to exchange to solve a conflict.....

I'm not sure, what you are trying to do... But if you really want to think that Netanyahu is pretty much Hitler and that it can't be any worse, feel free to do so... I won't stop you. I have a different opinion.

BTW: I don't think, anyone uses spirituality to justify what's happening in Gaza. They usually use the massacre in Isarel of last year as justification.

Imagine, Netanyahu would actually build concentration camps or declare to kill all palestinians or explain that Jewish people are surpirior because of their blood and then conquer the whole middle east region?

I mean... Who do you compare him with in that case? You have already used the Hitler comparison, which is already a 100/100 on the "very bad person" ladder......

I want a clip of everyone talking at the same time...

I like that USA is now talking about their own person instead of giving the orange one all the attention

I'm just differentiating between facts and accusations.

The status quo is that there are states accusing Israel of comitting a genocide.

What's interesting: I think, I have a somehow similar opinion about the brutality happening in Gaza and that there must be a plan to end this as soon as possible. But just because I don't use an emotion driven buzz word, people tell me to fuck off or shut up.....

Originally, I did not want to write this, but..... What's somehow ironic: I'm probably talking to people here whose own current and future government (does not matter whether Biden, Trump or Harris) states clearly that it's NOT a genocide. So, my "let's wait for the experts to classify it" view is not even as crazy as to the one of their government. But yeah... I don't know where you are from... So, this is an accusation, too.

But whatever... I'll keep describing what's happening in Gaza without using that word, as long a it's only a Genocide accusation.

Why do you even write this text, if you don't want to hear what I want to say?

BTW: I don't argue against the fact that terrible things are happening there. But that's not the definition of genocide. If you want to call it a genocide, go ahead. I'll just go ahead and mention the terrible things happening there without using buzzwords.

It's interesting that professionals who know about public international law are usually careful calling it genocide, because this is a complex topic, but random lemmy users with no experience are 100% sure (probably because they heard it from others).

I have no problem calling it genocide when it is actually classified as one. But sorry... I think, it's just stupid to use this word as a buzzword.

Can't we just criticize whatever he is doing wrong without stupid comparisons?

No, he is not a Hitler. No, Gaza is not a concentration camp. And the classification of whether it is a genocide or not will not be the job of a random Lemmy user.

I heard, they recently conquered a village*.

/* village totally destroyed, more than 100 own people died, the area of the largest country of the planet grew by 0.0001%

So.... it's illegal for Biden to fire members of the supreme court, but there are no consequences when he just kills a few of them...?

No problem, don't worry about it...

I hope, that Biden's news yesterday change the momentum of attention. At least, the most interesting question about the election is not about Trump right now...

Good luck with the election... A trustworthy democrat as next president is a win for the USA and for Germany where I'm from (and probably the whole planet)....

The last weeks were: Trump almost killed, Trump with Vance, Trump with porn star, Biden senile, Trump and court, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump

I see huge potential for a shift.

BTW: I did not downvote your response.

An alternative is needed. The search in the nearest old people's home has probably already begun.

Sorry for the sarcasm...

FINALLY...

Bad for the orange one, because the other side will get the whole media attention now.

FINALLY...

Bad for the orange one, because the other side will get the whole media attention now.

WTF??

Let's talk about your history 8 years ago...

One big conclusion of your last Trump disaster was "Bad attention is attention, too.". That's how your orange endangerer (is this a word? I hope so... You get what I mean) won the 2016 election. Trump insults someone => News article, Trump plans to do something => New article, Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump

Just stop talking about this guy... Why do I even know about this project 2025 bullshit in Germany? Not from our media... Just because progressive people (you use the word liberals) post about it all the time.

The worst case for trump would be everyone ignoring him.

The best case for him is everyone talking about him. It does not even matter whether it's positive or negative... About the attempt to kill him, about his stupid project, about the wall, about his hookers, about the court hearings, etc. How many more Trumps does America need to understand this?

From a German perspective, I don't understand why you always talk about this. You are giving them more attention than they deserve.