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  • Could the reddit API changes have to do with ChatGPT rather than third party apps?

  • Just speculation, but I think it's because people think Getty can hire top class laywers and therefore has a better chance of winning compared to, say, the group of artists who were also taking Dall-E to court

  • Could the reddit API changes have to do with ChatGPT rather than third party apps?

  • It's a 13 minutes rehashing the same points everyone has been making to death. And it doesn't even mention LLMs

  • Could the reddit API changes have to do with ChatGPT rather than third party apps?

  • I disagree, it's still too early abd a bit presumptuous to make such conclusive statements

  • Could the reddit API changes have to do with ChatGPT rather than third party apps?

  • Sure but I'm not sure why you are bringing this up. What's the wider point you are trying to make?

  • Could the reddit API changes have to do with ChatGPT rather than third party apps?

  • Getty is already suing the Dall-E creators, and someone is suing MS for Copilot; so it's already started

  • Could the reddit API changes have to do with ChatGPT rather than third party apps?

  • I am sorry but you don't know what you are talking about. These things are regulated by legal documents, you don't just wake up on morning and say "trust me bro, their data is public"

    If you go and read their TnC's it explicitly statea that scraping is forbidden without prioir written consent. They only allow access to their data via APIs, which of course they charge for

    The fact that it can be easily scraped it's neither here nor there, if they catch you they can sue you

  • Could the reddit API changes have to do with ChatGPT rather than third party apps?

  • Technically not (well, they can make it harder), but they can sue them for doing it

  • Could the reddit API changes have to do with ChatGPT rather than third party apps?

  • Oh I'm not saying they are doing the right thing or that it was the correct decision. Just speculating whether LLMs is what kicked off the whole thing

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  • Good try, dessalines, but I ain't biting 😉

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  • I’ve yet to run into any of these individuals.

    ...you wrote, only half an hour earlier 😉

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  • No worries 😆

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  • Exactly because we made the mistake once, in more naive times, we don't want to make it again...

    No one seems to have any problem with some of the extreme anti-human ideologies that a lot of social media ceos have.

    That's patently untrue

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  • I mean I like the lemmy-verse, but the main devs behind Lemmy are totally tankies. It's the reason why a lot of people are hesitant in joining

    This is the main developer (one of the only two developers) - if the avatar wasn't enough, have a look at the "essays" repo in his account... https://github.com/dessalines

  • Could the reddit API changes have to do with ChatGPT rather than third party apps?

  • Does it matter what Reddit's business model was founded on? Businesses respond to changing conditions all the time and pivot.

    "they got greedy" seems really a naive way of looking at it. They are a business, that's what businesses are all about. Additionally, they are a busienss which is NOT profitable, and need to to change things to survive now that the era of low interest rates has come to end. The real issue is that they are so inept IMHO

    I find the word "entshittification" so cringe

  • Could the reddit API changes have to do with ChatGPT rather than third party apps?

  • Interesting. Do you have a link to the specifics of the law you are talking about?

  • Could the reddit API changes have to do with ChatGPT rather than third party apps?

  • "Merely" - the TOS basically grant Reddit the ability to do what the hell they want with it, LOL

    When Your Content is created with or submitted to the Services, you grant us a worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, transferable, and sublicensable license to use, copy, modify, adapt, prepare derivative works of, distribute, store, perform, and display Your Content and any name, username, voice, or likeness provided in connection with Your Content in all media formats and channels now known or later developed anywhere in the world. This license includes the right for us to make Your Content available for syndication, broadcast, distribution, or publication by other companies, organizations, or individuals who partner with Reddit.

    And furthermore

    You also agree that we may remove metadata associated with Your Content, and you irrevocably waive any claims and assertions of moral rights or attribution with respect to Your Content.

  • Could the reddit API changes have to do with ChatGPT rather than third party apps?

  • They could have, probably / maybe, but they are quite inept. What is social media if not a giant dataset?!?

  • Could the reddit API changes have to do with ChatGPT rather than third party apps?

  • Depends on the TnCs

  • Could the reddit API changes have to do with ChatGPT rather than third party apps?

  • IF the owners of the data agree, or, if they disagree, until they take you to court. Getty Images are taking the creators of Dall-E to court, an some tech company is taking MS to court for Copilot

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    Could the reddit API changes have to do with ChatGPT rather than third party apps?

    old.reddit.com /r/reddit/comments/145bram/addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnk9izp/