but the problem is these people want it to be done by the service/devs/whatever.
I'll give people the benefit of the doubt. Coming from a centralized service means people are used to things working in a certain way, and they may just not have considered all the advantages of not being forced into a single, centralized service.
Isn't it weird that we live in a world with fake plants that are mass produced to the degree that many of us recognize them in a photo, that the table has fake distressed wood, that the floor is fake wooden paneling?
So many things have become attainable because of mass production, but isn't it weird that we live in a world where these things exist? Where you can walk into somebody's home in s different country, on a different continent, and go "yeah, i have the same thing at home?"
I absolutely love how Home Assistant can handle virtually any device or integration you throw at it, but for the time being, I'm keeping all my logic in webCoRE on Hubitat.
I'll give people the benefit of the doubt. Coming from a centralized service means people are used to things working in a certain way, and they may just not have considered all the advantages of not being forced into a single, centralized service.