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tenants usually pay rent

can you explain what you mean by will to live?

meat isn't necessary for the vast majority of people.

you don't know what others need

I just want you to stop trying to use sophistry to convert people to your ideology. surely the plain-spoken facts are sufficient.

you are moving the goal posts. I provided the only counter example needed to disprove your claim

as I said, I don't know that you can prove your claim

the opposite of natural is supernatural.

regardless of the reason, that is the present condition

that's an even stronger claim than is made in the comic, which is only that vegans might be right. which i can agree to, but i have yet to find compelling evidence.

veganism as a term didn't exist until the 1940s, and the philosophy is not the same as what al-ma'arri advocated.

Here’s the data.

this data is based on bad science. in particular, it relies on poore-nemecek 2018, which misuses LCA data by combining disparately methodized studies.

It sounds like torture to me

in torture, the point is to cause pain. in farming, pain is incidental. if it could be done at the same cost and entirely painlessly, i'm sure that method would prevail.

Go ahead.

hunting can yield hundreds of pounds of meat for just a few dollars.

veganism is a philosophy, and has been around less than one hundred years

impossible, if there are no states

The only way meat is cheaper than a slavery free vegan (or vegetarian) diet is if that meat comes from a torture factory

a single counterexample would disprove this. also, torture factories don't exist.

Local meat is still worse for the environment than non-meat that was shipped across the globe

I don't know how you can prove this

no militaries, no laws, no states

in the absence of necessity, intentionally confining, harming and killing animals

almost no one does that, whether they are vegan or not

there are three categories: moral duty, amoral, and immoral. if we can't agree on that, you are not qualified to discuss morality.