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I kind of expected Omega to be a big ol' nothingburger, kind of like Rassilon in "The End of Time", so I wasn't disappointed on that front.

There's a lot of potential in Omega, though, and to be honest I don't think any of the stories in which he appears have come anywhere close to taking advantage of it. He's always just a generic madman.

I have a lot of conflicting thoughts about the Poppy stuff - you make some very good points. I do think the Doctor and Belinda were planning on being...non-romantic parents toward the end there, which seemed to make sense to me. But I'm really not sure what to make of the whole thing, on a logical or thematic level. Like I said in my first comment, they did manage to take it from something I had no investment in to something I was actually kind of sad about, so they get some credit there, but...I won't be surprised at all if we learn that there was an earlier version of this story that went in a different direction.

Nope - at the end of this video, RTD says "quite soon" twice, which could mean...a lot of things.

But I'm pretty sure we'll see it before 2025 is out, so there's that.

Oh?

"I ask all levels of government, please come together, work together, ask that these hotels and these accommodations make space for our people. We are in a state of emergency, you can give that directive."

I find this a little confusing - are they to "ask" the hotels to make space, or are they to "direct" them? Those are two very different things.

And if it's the latter...is there a legal way to do so? This is an honest question, I have no idea what the answer is.

YouTube: Season 2:Epilogue

As everyone said farewell to this iconic Doctor, they also got sight of a very familiar face as the Doctor regenerated and it was none other than Billie Piper… Billie first appeared in the Whoniverse when Doctor Who returned to screens in 2005, as Rose Tyler, the much-loved Companion to the Doctor played by Christopher Eccleston and David Tennant. But just how and why she is back remains to be seen…

Speaking of the surprise twist, Russell T Davies adds “Billie once changed the whole of television, back in 2005, and now she’s done it again! It’s an honour and a hoot to welcome her back to the TARDIS, but quite how and why and who is a story yet to be told. After 62 years, the Doctor’s adventures are only just beginning!”

Speaking of her return, Billie said: “It’s no secret how much I love this show, and I have always said I would love to return to the Whoniverse as I have some of my best memories there, so to be given the opportunity to step back on that TARDIS one more time was just something I couldn’t refuse, but who, how, why and when, you’ll just have to wait and see.”

Official Site: Ncuti Gatwa says final farewell to the TARDIS as the Fifteenth Doctor regenerates...

the implication that he is never going to come back and that he’s been replaced by a human dad

I took it more as him knowing he was going to stay away during Poppy's childhood for safety's sake, and that he would have a different face when he returned.

I wanted to add that Thirteen's appearance has really grown on me - I think she's the one incarnation of the Doctor who would be able to drop the sanctimonious "I have to stop you" bullshit so quickly, and help Fifteen instead. The others would have gotten there eventually, but she's the version most equipped to get there so quickly.

I hope so, too - right now, I don't see any reason not to take him at his word.

He mentions being tired and the role being demanding a couple of times in "Unleashed", too.

The bone beasts were alright, but I feel like the explanation didn’t really make much sense, and surely they could have found a better name than “bone beasts”.

Like you, I also went back to watch the old Omega stories, and I figure the Bone Beasts were a nod to Omega's bird skeleton sidekick.

A gap is inevitable, for sure.

But RTD has been talking about actively writing season three scripts for quite some time, so maybe it won't be too bad.

Ncuti: "It was always the plan to do this amount of seasons. Plus, it's a role that demands a lot of you, physically and emotionally and mentally."

The Disney deal may be up in the air, but I'm genuinely not concerned about the show's future.

YouTube: Regeneration, Omega and THAT RETURN | Behind the Scenes of The Reality War

I think they said it was due to the genetic bomb, but I'll try to double check when I inevitably rewatch it.

This article on the official site does absolutely nothing to clarify the situation.

Speaking of her return, Billie said: “It’s no secret how much I love this show, and I have always said I would love to return to the Whoniverse as I have some of my best memories there, so to be given the opportunity to step back on that TARDIS one more time was just something I couldn’t refuse, but who, how, why and when, you’ll just have to wait and see.”

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's a retcon. I'm fine with it, but those WTF moments start to pile up.

This thread is now officially a support group.

Okay, I think it's time for everyone to talk out our feelings together.

My thoughts on this one are complicated, and probably incomplete, so I'm relying on y'all to help me pick this thing apart.

My initial thoughts, off the top of my head:

• It's a typically messy RTD finale, probably less than the sum of its parts, which is pretty much what I expected it to be.
• There's unfortunately very little to talk about when it comes to the Rani/Omega plot. I'm left wondering if the "new" Rani regenerated in the Underverse. I'm glad the Mrs. Flood version survived to reappear another day, but I'm surprised that they didn't do more with her testy relationship with her counterpart.
• The Poppy story...huh. They actually did a pretty good job of taking something that I was not invested in at all when it started to unfold, and turning it into something that I genuinely felt bad about by the end. The bit with the Doctor and Belinda passing the coat back and forth as it faded away was very well done.
• And leaving Ruby as the one person who can remember "old" realities gives her an extra air of tragedy, as well. Millie Gibson played it very well.
• I absolutely loved seeing Thirteen again.
• And that ending...well, that's going to suck all of the oxygen out of the discourse for the next X years, so I guess I'll keep it brief. I'm not against it, but I'm skeptical. That said, I don't think it's something that RTD would do lightly, and he must have an idea of why he's doing it.

Open the floodgates. I need this.

Balfe has a load of high visibility (audibility?) credits to his name

Wow, you ain't kidding. His work with Zimmer is definitely the stuff that stands out in my mind, but he's done a number of high-profile solo projects, as well.