Researchers just discovered a massive 'jacuzzi bubbling with almost pure hydrogen' — a lucrative source of clean energy
Researchers just discovered a massive 'jacuzzi bubbling with almost pure hydrogen' — a lucrative source of clean energy
Exploit it immediately, whatever the costs!!
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Clean until you use a bunch of equipment to get it captured. The hydrogen might be carbon free, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have a carbon footprint.
Convince me otherwise, but the only green hydrogen is from renewable energy powered electrolysis.
Convince me otherwise
Hydrogen, released directly into the atmosphere, interacts with methane and increases it's half life. And since Methane is 50x more powerful as a greenhosue gas than CO2... that's bad.
When you "burn" hydrogen, on the other hand, you're converting it into water. Which is obviously harmless.
So, capturing this hydrogen wouldn't just be "carbon free" it would potentially be "carbon negative" at least in terms of it's actual actual impact on climate change which is generally what people mean when they talk about carbon these days.
Hydrogen in out atmosphere is generally not a big problem, so it doesn't get talked about much at all... but if you're going to talk about the greenhouse gasses to install an mining rig... then you are getting into territory where that type of thing is significant.
Trust me, it doesn't take much energy (and therefore not much carbon) to produce a mine to extract more energy. If it did nobody would ever do it.
Water too is a powerful greenhouse gas and burning hydrogen in cars isn't a perfect combustion.
I feel it's lying to call it carbon negative but I can see companies trying to portrait it as lucratively as possible
Damn, you got em
If you come at it from the angle of the equipment used to capture it having a carbon footprint, then that should also apply to equipment doing electrolysis.
That said, what is the level of environmental footprint we're talking about in comparison to electrolysis? We don't know yet, because it's not clear this new source can be economically tapped, but we'll see.
That's a pretty daft conclusion, because JCB has been making Hydrogen machinery for quite some time now and power made for all the equipment on site can also easily be made with hydrogen.
Hydrogen from electrolysis comes from clean water. You know, the stuff we drink and water our plants with that’s getting more and more difficult to come by? I’d rather not see the oil industry turn water into the new gasoline.
That is incorrect, because salt water electrolysis is a thing - actually so much more efficient even, that they salt fresh water because it takes less energy. Not only that - the plant which I indirectly work for uses grey water. You know, that stuff that you flush down the drain?
Do you know what you get when you burn hydrogen?
Probably not.
You need electrolytes (salt) to electrolyze water. Might as well use sea water.
There are plenty of other problems with hydrogen energy, though.
I’d say if you used carbon neutral power to extract it that it would be green.
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Sorry about that. I shouldn't have had Taco Bell before getting in.
Toyota is salivating.