2023 Austrian Grand Prix [RACE] discussion thread

That message from Toto seemed like a polite way of saying “shut the f up and drive”

I like Lewis but he can come across as whiny sometimes...
- The radio messages they choose really aren’t that flattering. I’m more annoyed at the TV direction ignoring other driver radios in favor of hamilton complaining
- Its just his "in car"-persona lol
- I think the radio messages that get played make a lot of the drivers sound a bit whiny.

Those were awful pit stops for Ferrari

Absolutely terrible. Great driving from Sainz to recover what he could though.
- I’m a little sad that McLaren doesn’t appear to be quite up to Ferrari but glad that Norris seems to be solidifying best of the rest especially in a car that has so far this season been all around not great

Really nice fight between sainz and perez! I’m digging the new cars feels like they can fight each other more.

It's great to see how close they can follow! I wonder how it would have looked if DRS wasn't a factor.

You get a 5 second penalty, and you get a 5 second penalty... insert oprah meme

Toto Wolff: "We know that the car is slow, just drive it"

Just a deeply depressing moment

Verstappen getting heat in the tires in front of Leclerc, lol

What a show of complete dominance haha

Really nice to see these McLaren improvements. I hope the performance translates to other tracks. It will be great to Lando potentially fighting for podiums.

Another VER win but he had to work for it a little. PER managing a very good damage limitation drive in ending up on the podium

Ferrari pulling off a double podium could have been a dream come true given where the team was a few weeks back. Alas, it was not to be. 2-4 is not a bad weekend though is it? If they can get strategy sorted out, the car seems to be getting there but tyre deg is still a touch too high.

NOR killing it today and putting that McLaren on the map yet again. PIA needs to step up or we will be talking about him getting replaced soon. I know he doesn’t have the upgrades this race but ending up rock bottom when your teammate rakes in points is not a good look.

ALO having a very lonely race but scoring some much needed points. STR just squeaking in a point was nice but he can and should be doing better.

HAM struggling quite a bit today while RUS seemed more comfortable with the car. But the car seemed to be genuinely struggling at this track. Let’s see what the British isles look like for this team next week.

GAS doing quite well to clock 2 points for the team. Too bad OCO could not be bullheaded enough to get some points today.

ALB and SAR having very good runs, a nice change for SAR huh? The Williams is easily the best if the rest at this point.

ZHO and BOT doing their usual thing. BOT getting squeezed at the start again and ZHO ending up ahead of him but not too far ahead.

DEV outperformed TSU today, a much needed performance but I am afraid it had more to do with TSU losing it rather than DEV rising to the occasion. Doubt it will cut much ice with Helmut.

MAG the lone Haas in the fight today and there’s not much good to tell. The car is a shitbox and there don’t seem to be signs of improvement.

Very thrilling race. 8.5/10.

I can't believe they're pitting for the fastest lap! What a risk, and its not like they really need the point.

If they told him no, Max would have come in and forced the stop, guaranteed.
- He definitely would have wanted to! Max shows up to every session with the desire and means to dominate.
- That would have lost him the race. They wouldnt have been ready and that would have cost the 4 seconds he was in front of leclerc after the stop
More valuable to Perez tbh

And that's why yuki isn't replacing checo anytime soon

A bummer...

They need to update their TV graphics to show all the track limits penalties.

Not sure it would fit...
I don't get why they don't have a little "+5s" tag next to the driver's name. It's common in most other series.

This battle between Sainz and Perez is incredible!

Sainz: Let's extend and hope for a safety car! Ferrari: Copy! Also Ferrari: Box, Box!

Does anyone have the weather predictions?

My app on Samsung predicted possible thunderstorms, but it looks mostly overcast and mid-20 degrees.

Not strictly race related, but taking part in a live discussion thread on Lemmy is miserable. It's way too slow to reload, and when you do it forgets that you want it ordered by new.

Lemmy.world is struggling to keep up with the Reddit refugees. They ran into a lot of scaling issues last night and are working with temporary load balancing and a lot of behind the scenes stuff.
It should get better over the next few weeks as some stability work is done to the backend.
lemmy.world is just slow. From my instance everything runs smooth
- I'm a Reddit refugee as well. Could you please explain what does it mean that you have your own instance? Does it mean that posts and our comments are stored somewhere on your side as well, and that's why it's working good for you?
Earlier it updated with new posts automatically without needing to reload browser. Probably they turned it off temporarily with the big migration of reddit users.

Norris the hall monitor

So here we go. The quick lap times also brings backmarkers into play which can help mix things up.

De Vries moment

He’s looking just as bad as normal

Toto being a dad for a child with a tantrum it sounds like.

I mean the viewers are frustrated with the dominance. I cant imagine how it is when you dedicate your life to it and then you are uncompetitive
- Well it's the nature of the sport. we had 7 years of Merc dominance.

Those were awful pit stops for Ferrari

A little bit earlier I complained about this season not being exciting, but damn, this race is actually good and fun to watch. We know who's going to win, but p2 and p3 are I think open for anybody, given the amount of penalties.

I hope my boy Lando ends in p2!

Seeing a 4 way fight between Mercedes, Ferrari, AM, and McLaren! It's so competitive and exciting if you look past Redbull!
But mainly because its so confusing who has a penalty and who doesnt
- Even Hülkenberg got one after being out of the race 😂

They should do something about this turn 10, all these penalties are ridiculous...

Drivers could just take more margin...Its not that hard
- Agreed. Staying within the white lines is well within every driver's ability. Although I think it would be better to design a "penalty" into the track (gravel, grass, etc.).

Thats just too easy

Unlucky for the Ferraris, the VSC came when they passed the pit entry. Then Sainz losing 3 places after the doublestack.

That RB DRS comes open and the car gets a whole lot visibly faster. Holy shit

That pit stop and fastest lap was just an opportunity for the whole Red Bull team to flex, wasn‘t it?

Why aren't Ferrari pitting any of there drivers!!!😡

Lol they waited for the green flag

That last second box by Verstappen to get top lap time was just stunting by that time

Interesting move from Yuki

Ferrari double stack, hahaha.

Disappointing for Stroll starting in front of Alonso on the grid, and still ending up far behind him. Did something happen?

Especially when he admits he’s having control problems. Like, you think they’re being unfair to you when you admit you’re off the track? Chill out.

Those helmet cameras offer such a unique view.

I mean he just continues to dominate its uncanny.

I'm happy that Charles gets a podium again but I wonder how Ferrari will improve enough to be competitive next year.

I mean as Ferrari fan you'll have to cling onto the hope... as every year

Please let the McLaren upgrades translate to decent race pace at Silverstone - I live in hope...

What is Piastri doing down there in 19

He also doesn’t have the upgrades that have been added to Norris’ car iirc
Broke his front wing when Magnussen was forced to stop on the apex. Been struggling ever since.

Really nice fight between sainz and perez! I’m digging the new cars feels like they can fight each other more.

It would be funny if that fails now

I hate that even the commentators cant think of drivers just not going to the absolute limit of the white line. Then its also not marginal...

Cherry on top with RB pitting MV on 70. Went out of their way with risk just to get an extra point. Grid is no longer challenging enough, they have to set their own objectives now.

Great race for Norris though! Really hoping McLaren upgrades hold up for the rest of the season.

So thats it again

Let's gooooo

Everyone is getting black and white it’s wild

Absolutely amazing drive by Lando there, it's nice to see the upgrades bringing him back somewhat into the fray. Hopefully that continues through the season

They should just introduce the longlap system. Turn one even has the long lap penalty from motogp

Perez should have got P2 here really - would be interesting to hear his radio on the DRS and the initial pitstop call

Perez, please don't screw it up (he is going to screw it up)

How did stroll end up in 15 the place?

Sainz vs. Ferrari

He was clearly faster than Lec in the first and second stints, and yet Ferrari just let him keep station while both their drivers fell back from Ver.

I can already see a perez L coming

Dirty stuff from de Vries