Pope Leo XIV accepts LGBTQ inclusion in Catholic Church

Catching up with the member base and following a more open Christian vision instead of bigotry? Sounds good.

Member base in which country? There are plenty of bigoted Catholics around the world.
This is a good thing though, slow progress is still progress.
- A lot of people don't understand that Catholicism is secretly 10 different denominations in a trench coat. It's overdue for another schism; the more progressive end keeps pushing for changes to bring back lapsed/excluded members while the reactionary right keeps ramping up resistance.
- Call me cynical, but I believe it's just a ploy to get/keep their #s, and thus their donations and power up.
- Like the last pope, people will just claim he’s not a real pope.
- That's a valid point, I sadly might be prejudiced here by my upbringing.
Hahaha, that open-minded Catholic base, eh?

I’m personally not a Catholic and I know they’ve done harm to many people before but the pope is an important figure in the religious world. Even steps as small as this can help many many people.

Imo, this is as huge as John Paul affirming evolution.

im all for this obviously. but isnt the fact that it wasnt included before just proving its all just made up and political?

like pope is closest to god. did god change its mind?

whats stopping the next pope from switching back?

im not catholic but if i was id have a crisis of faith over this kind of thing.

The church have altered their policies before.
The Middle Ages saw indulgences being sold, and only a few decades ago were ideas like evolution more widely accepted within the church.
While today the church itself still has the same policy on homosexuality, Pope Francis started reforms on being more accepting and supportive of the LGBTQ community, supporting civil unions, allowing gay preachers to continue to preach, etc.
Pope Leo XIV is seemingly continuing this gradual change in attitude towards the community towards a more positive light.
Only time will tell what happens next, but I hope they continue to move with the times.
- its interesting right? i suppose they could argue giving full support for the right things may be too freeing for the people initially or something, so they are in theory easing people into love slowly changing the minds of thr populous over time. but pretty sure Jesus just preached love from the beginning so its a mute point i feel.
This is a very complicated question but essentially he didn't change anything, really. He's just saying that the stuff Francis did will stay, and what Francis did was only "progressive" when viewed through the lens of a nearly 2000 year old institution whose views haven't really changed much in that time. The current stance of the Catholic Church on homosexuality that was developed under Francis is pretty much that they're willing to look past some things that they consider to be sins in order to keep the church together. A lot of care and thought goes into crafting official papal decrees (which are written on very precise technical language, essentially Catholic legalese) to ensure that they align with already established doctrine. If a Pope just said "BTW we're totally cool with homosexuality now" he would be deposed somehow and his decrees deemed invalid for breaking with established doctrine
It doesn't sound like he changed the biblical rules, just opened the doors a bit. So LGTBQ+ people might still go to hell (according to Catholics) but they can go to church and do whatever they do.
The church can rewrite any of the rules though. If it is official, they call it dogma. They consider it a revelation and it becomes a new rule.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogma_in_the_Catholic_Church
“did god change its mind?” Well said…

This article's headline is fairly misleading but essentially what is being said here is that Leo will maintain the status quo that was established under Francis, which was essentially that the Catholic Church still disapproves of homosexuality, but is willing to turn a blind eye to it in countries where the general culture is more accepting of LGBT people. In essence, it's a balancing act because the Catholic Church, despite being so historically tied to European identity and culture, is increasingly a non-European institution, with almost all growth in Catholic membership and clergy coming from outside of Europe, and the non-European clergy are typically much more hard line on LGBT issues than the European leadership and power base of the Church. There is also the fundamental issue that almost all of the people in charge legitimately believe that God has forbidden homosexuality and that it is a serious sin to have sex with someone of the same sex, and that there is no difference between biological sex and gender. The question is not about "Does the Catholic Church approve of this?" It is "How much of this are we willing to ignore to keep the church from splitting in a time where it is already in decline?" That may seem odd, but the long term success of the Catholic Church, and the reason it has been able to survive for nearly 2000 years all across the world, is due in large part to their willingness to turn a blind eye to behaviors they consider sinful to keep people in the church.

TL;DR- the Catholic Church isn't cool with LGBT people now, it's just a political tightrope the Pope has to walk in the modern Church.

Cookie granted.

I could never go back unless my 3 demands are met: gay marriage, female ordination, Trans recognition.

Mind you I'm happily pagan now, but even if that changed those are why I left catholicism and half measures wouldn't've been enough to keep me

Pagan? Like legit believe in pagan gods? I'm an atheist but I use paganism to piss off christians.
- Paganism both neo and reconstructionist are minor religions practiced in the modern day with an incredible variety to them. My lsd inspired version shouldn't be taken as the default by any means but yeah. I once protested alongside an odinist. Earth devotion is very pumpkin spice pagan, but for good reason we're quite certain earth exists.