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First time arround I got emotionally attached to Blaidd so I commited to see his quest through till the end (tears were shed) , and that's how I got Ranni's ending. Some parts of the quest are so convoluted tho!!
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Fuckin saaaame
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I prefer Fia ending. She's always nice to me
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im gonna stan for ranni for a second.
her ending is the only one that leaves the lands between to their own devices, separate from the will of the outer gods, and the greater will.
the greater will being a literal alien outer god that came to the lands between to inflict its vision of order upon the crucible. removing death itself to feed its own cycle.
perfect order just maintains that cycle with adjustments to make a more permanent version. cementing the will of an invading outer god that literally wiped all other religions and opposing loyal forces in the lands between off the face of the map (and underground)
fias ending adds death to the cycle, but still maintains the greater will (a colonising force)
chaos ending just destroys virtually everyone and everything. besides i guess you and marikas daughter/separated spiritual half (when she merged with radagon)
rannis ending literally returns the lands between to their own devices, at least for a time.
its the only ending that reverses the will of the outer gods and bans their will (even ranni leaves to cement this, as she would have been a branch of the outer gods will if she stayed), and allows those who live there to be there own boss, for the first time in thousands of years.
ranni is the moral choice.
perfect order is just fascism so good you dont even know its there.
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Alright I definitely disagree with a lot of this. I do think her ending is one of the better ones and she's a cool character, but:
her ending is the only one that leaves the lands between to their own devices, separate from the will of the outer gods, and the greater will.
Outer Gods do not need access to the Elden Ring to influence the world. If they did, we wouldn't have a Lake of Rot, the Three Fingers, or the fire giant's extra face to deal with. Was Marika just... letting them do all that before? Even when she actively waged a genocidal war to get rid of the Flame of Ruin?
We also do not actually know anything about the Dark Moon either; it might just straight up be another conscious cosmic entity like the Greater Will. It's certainly talked about in largely the same way the few times it is mentioned. Ranni describes it as wise, so she seems to consider it conscious
removing death itself to feed its own cycle.
Marika did that, not the Greater Will. It doesn't seem to come smite us from above if we pick Fia's ending, even.
cementing the will of an invading outer god that literally wiped all other religions and opposing loyal forces in the lands between off the face of the map (and underground)
Again, Marika's actions, not the GW's. This is like blaming the Christian God for the Crusades instead of the humans that called for and carried out the Crusades. Dog pope even repeatedly makes the point that the order wasn't always like this and can accommodate basically anything. We also know that the GW can tolerate good relations with other faiths because it specifically did with the Carians in the past, and it was Marika that put an end to it.
rannis ending literally returns the lands between to their own devices, at least for a time
But leaves the Elden Ring in the hands of someone that already has a track record of screwing over the entire world for her own ends and running off without even trying to fix any of it. Not to mention that we absolutely know for a fact that space, in this setting, is full of scary monsters that can and will interrupt this voyage
its the only ending that reverses the will of the outer gods and bans their will
The only gods Ranni removes from the Lands Between are Marika, by virtue of having you kill her and taking the Elden Ring from her, and then herself. And I suppose diminishing the Greater Will, but replacing it with her preferred counterpart. She never mentions the Outer Gods at all.
Ranni takes the Elden Ring for herself, leaves, and promises not to come back to mess with anything. That's all. Goldmask's rune puts a password preventing admin access to the Elden Ring so that Marika's successors (starting with you) can't mess with it on a whim like she did. There's no indication at all that his ending enforces any of the shit Marika did, he's trying to make sure that nobody that comes after Marika can do what she did (with the Elden Ring; he obviously cannot prevent all the horrors she inflicted in her capacity as a queen giving orders like a regular queen. The only ending that addresses that sort of problem is the one that sets fire to everything until there is nobody left to commit atrocities or have atrocities committed against them)
To be clear I don't, like... hate Ranni or anything. She's a really interesting character. Part of that character is that she has no interest whatsoever in saving the world; her whole plan from day one was fucking off so she can be left alone, leaving things like Deathblight and the Rot completely unaddressed and also taking away one of the other most powerful entities who might have worked against those. But she isn't making anything worse and her plan does mitigate the risks of someone like Shabriri getting the Ring, so by FromSoft standards that's actually alright
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Agree with everything :)
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I love that her quest takes much longer and is pretty obscure at times, but is by far the most commonly achieved ending. FromSoft apparently knew that waifu is the strongest motivator in gaming.
Hell I haven't done her ending but I've still done the quest each time. There's cool stuff in there. I want to poke about in Nokron and fight Astel and Alecto
Sorry, you actively want to fight Astel? I don't know how to feel about that :D The first time around I had the displeasure of experiencing that fight, I must have had to try beating them for hours on end. That bullshit teleport grab attack was the bane of my existence. It came to a point where I looked up cheese strategies, like scarlet rot, to have a fighting chance. On repeat playthroughs, it's usually fine but still such a slog
I played though Elden Ring blind (with a couple beginner tips someone online gave me, like what stats to level and some good early weapons)
I went through the whole quest basically accidentally. I didn’t realize it was supposed to be obscure, I just thought it was normal parts of the game that everyone did. Elden Ring is also my first Souls game I really got into (I beat two bosses in PS3 Demon’s Souls before quitting.)
I didn’t know until now it’s tied to an ending! I never beat the final boss. I got pretty okay at the first form, but I could never finish off his last form.
Yeah FromSoft has a long habit of telling their stories in the most obtuse ways possible. They're perfectly capable of doing normal storytelling (see Armoured Core, for example), they just choose to do it like this for their Souls-like games
That said, I actually think that a blind playthrough is a good idea for the first time! The world is meant to be mysterious. It's okay if you don't see everything
Tough bosses ruining the end of a game are a pet peeve of mine. Thankfully I've suffered enough Soulslikes that ER wasnt too bad for me (Sekiro on the other hand...)
Danni's quest isn't so obscure, but it is a little more hidden than just rushing to the Erdtree and fighting the boss as directly as possible. I think that she's the most compelling (and best written) character in the game, which probably contributes a lot to her ending being more popular. She helps you early game, obviously has her own agenda but doesn't really act like she doesn't, which pulls off the fun trick of making the character both mysterious yet also trustworthy.
Who? I don't remember any of the characters in ER.
Ranni on the left (the blue witch with four arms), Goldmask on the right (the mute guy who points at the Erdtree, Corhyn follows him around). They're the characters associated with the two most popular endings