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  • The p320 has been, as best I can tell, a complete and utter travesty that never should have seen widespread adoption in the first place

    • It's very strange to me that the apparent reason for the pistols going off is in the unique fire control design (combined with bad execution or QC), which is only designed the way it is to give a very slightly improved trigger pull compared to other SAOs. The military has a tradition of not really caring about trigger pull quality for general issue arms, but suddenly for a new pistol this design was selected.

      • I don't recall what the desire for a striker fired pistol actually was, but if I'm not mistaken it originally wasn't a striker fired design, and they modified it to be one. My understanding is that it was already a pretty crap handgun, that retrofitting to work a different way made worse

        It might have even been the idea that striker fired handguns can be safer? I don't recall. It obviously hasn't worked out for them though 😅

        Edit: just read more carefully- yeah I don't know why the fire controll design was chosen. I'm not very knowledgeable on the fire control aspects specifically

        Its kind of a dumpster fire all around honestly 😅

  • 90% of security officers on US bases could just "Israeli carry" (Hammer down on an empty chamber. Or on a striker-fired handgun basically just insert the mag.) They'd have to adjust training to "draw+rack" but again, for Air Force MPs that is probably fine in most cases.

    Either that or dust off a bunch of M9 handguns.

    • Israeli carry has, I've heard, been proposed within some commands. That would work as a bandaid solution, but it isn't fixing the core issue of something mechanically wrong with the guns which is not just a problem limited to Air Force MPs.

      Sig has top to bottom dropped the ball and I agree the best solution would be reverting to M9s and/or choosing from a variety of other options, but unfortunately I don't think that will happen with as much sunk cost there has been into Sig contracts.

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