Young Europeans losing faith in democracy, poll finds
Young Europeans losing faith in democracy, poll finds
www.theguardian.com
Young Europeans losing faith in democracy, poll finds
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All you need is a clickbait headline and an absurdly bad interpretation of a study, and you see doomerism (and some tankies) in full force.
As someone already wrote in this thread, the study has a different outcome than what the title suggests. I encourage everyone to click the original study link (it's in German, but there is DeepL and the like ...).
The young European don't loose faith in democracy, but I have been loosing faith in the Guardian for some time.
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How would people not lose faith in a perverted form of democracy, where pretty much all you can vote for are different collections of lying self serving bastards employed by the ultra rich in order to fuck over ordinary people for their profits?
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That's bullshit. There are plenty non-corrupt parties on the ballot. It's just that voters willingly vote for the "collections of lying self serving bastards employed by the ultra rich". Turns out you can't vote for murdering migrants at the border without getting morally bankrupt bastards in the government.
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They start out non corrupt due to lack of opportunity. As soon as they gain power, they will become increasingly corrupted. The nature of politics strongly favours ruthless careerists, and in the end that leads to the large and powerful parties mostly consisting of people who would sell their own grandmother for personal profit.
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This is unnecessary doomerism IMO. There are plenty of parties and politicians out there willing to make a difference.
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I don't buy that they are "willing" anymore. I've been lied to and betrayed by far too many politicians on every governmental level, and from all kinds of different parties, and as long as they face exactly zero consequences for essentially defrauding their voters, this won't change.
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Usually in the wrong direction.
In my country, which is part of the Europe, the only decent parties, in my view, do <1% of the vote...
A swiss-like system would be a good start, with a more direct, horizontal democracy, but basically nobody advocates for it.
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just wait until your country willfully cedes power to a fascist dictator...
inb4 "it'll never happen," etc
that's exactly what everyone in the states said
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Farrage is already peddling the project 2025 playbook and the morons that vote for him are lapping it up.
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at least those morons don't have a special room dedicated to their assault weapons, the way the ones in america do
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They are losing faith in the current system certainly. Corpoganda can easily convince them that they're dissatisfied with the only redeemable aspect of the status quo
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The current system has some fatal flaws: It is reliably and repeatedly failing at holding politicians accountable for their actions and forcing them to actually do what they promised before the election. It also strongly favours parties and politicians backed by people and corporations with deep pockets.
Unless there is accountability, the system will ultimately fail. Unfortunately, those who could introduce such accountability, are exactly the same people who greatly profit from there being none.
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People are not exerting enough of their political will in a material way. All this energy we (myself included) put into having these perfect little opinions on the internet should really be directed at in-person protests, organising, and demanding better. Really shouting in faces type of stuff. That's what's up.
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This is a very weird framing of this study. The original study (which is linked in the article) is in German. Those who don't speak German will find a useful translation provider, I provide the study's summary literal translation:
>Young people: EU and democracy are good, but reforms are needed
Among others, the study also says (again, a direct translation, I am not paraphrasing):
I don't say that everything is perfect, but the whole study paints a completely different picture than this article - and especially its headline - appears to suggest.
[Edit my comments for clarity, translation has not been edited.]
Now I wish we could cross-post comments too
Done :-)