The Lord works in mysterious ways?

He was not struck with a bullet. It was shrapnel from one of the nearby screens. There's a reason they didn't release the first medical report and took a week to get their favorite lying doctor (who is not a practice doctor any longer because he's in Congress) to release his own lie filled report.

A bullet would have torn off a hunk of his ear. We've seen the lack of wound within days of the event.

This is the first time I heard of this and made me really curious. I tried my best to find any proof, confirmations or fact checking sites backing up this claim, but nada. Either the dude has succesfully paid literally everyone to lie, or, sometimes the truth sounds worse than a lie and our cognitive function really wants approvals for that.

If you have something solid, please send it to me, wish I could use this argument, but at this point I'd feel like yellow press
- After much debate, the FBI report settled on bullet or bullet shrapnel but there was no conclusive evidence as Cheeto bandito refused to be checked out or let doctors talk about it.
  
  The idea above was an initial theory by Internet no lifers. The more common one now is that he hit his head on a secret service pistol when ducking.
  
  Trump’s ear getting scratched after getting tackled by the Secret Service was my first thought when I saw the photo.
  
  I don’t think a bullet got close.
  
  I did see a video that postulated he was hit in the head by one of the USSS agents' holsters
- The proof is in that hidden first doctor report that they refused to publish before getting the guy who tried to tell us he was a trim 230 and 6'3" to make the statement.
  
  And the fact that we could see his ear days afterwards without a scratch on it. Given that this is medical in nature, the number of people who even had access to that is small, and right wing media will repeat whatever lie he tells, it suits their narrative best. Regardless of how obviously untrue it is
  
  And the fact that we could see his ear days afterwards without a scratch on it.
  
  I hate how easily I can imagine religious folks seeing this as a positive sign, instead of as a suspicious one.
This, I can believe. Now, it's not necessarily true it would've mangled his ear if it was a grazing shot, but a graze likely wouldn't have bled quite as much as Donald's wound did. A small laceration from a piece of plastic that had been, uh, acutely accelerated in his direction makes a lot more sense.
- A small laceration from a piece of plastic that had been, uh, acutely accelerated in his direction makes a lot more sense.
  
  This or getting cut when tackled/ducking really make the most sense and match the injury characteristics the most.
IIRC this was debunked, there's image of the bullet trail going past his ear. There was also no screen nearby that launched shrapnel in his direction iirc.
- Video of a bullet paint behind his head from the perspective of a the camera doors not prove it hit him. Sorry
  
  Factcheck showing no images or video of broken glass nearby: https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-rumor-shards-glass-232900180.html
  
  FBI also confirmed the bullet lightly grazed him: https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/07/30/congress/no-doubt-trump-was-hit-by-bullet-00171861
  
  (Paywalled) NYT analysis also suggests it was a bullet: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/26/us/politics/trump-shooter-bullet-trajectory-ear.html
  
  Independent forensic experts also weighed in stating it's extremely unlikely it wasn't a bullet:
  
  Diaczuk echoed the Times’ findings, pointing out that there were no objects between Crooks and Trump that logically could have created flying debris, and that the podium and seats behind Trump happened to be positioned in such a way that the laws of physics made it unlikely he was hit by a fragment of either, he told The Independent.
  
  Do you have any evidence that shows where the supposed glass shrapnel came from? I understand not liking Trump (I detest him too), but come on. It was an assassination attempt, he was very lightly grazed by the bullet.
  
  Because the FBI has never said something to support him before. Their "what else could it have been" is not actual confirmation.
  
  It was either shrapnel from something nearby, or the USSS hip checked him with their holster. He was not struck by a bullet.
  
  Nice proof there?
  
  Wray initially came out saying it was still unclear if Trump was hit. After investigation it was concluded he was.
  
  I cited sources and showed evidence, you haven't shown anything. Either find some proof for your assertions or admit you were wrong.
  
  There was nothing in between Crooks and Trump that was hit and could have launched shrapnel at Trump. And it's hilarious to think the USSS "hip-checked" him when we have clear photo evidence of two skin-grazings on his ear.
He probably wasn't even hit by that. Blood capsules are cheap, probably a trick he learned from his work with the WWE.
- I doubt he had those with him. Just in case this happened. He's not that quick a thinker. And he'd never agree to be near live rounds.
A bullet would have to actually hit the ear for what you describe. But I guess you have a vested interest in not at least trying to understand this.

You understand that the space-time we inhabit, or at least I do, has a very high resolution? The bullet can be any distance at all from the ear as it flies by.

Is this clear?
- Yes, I understand that a bullet would have had to actually hit him for it to cause a bullet wound. Which he clearly did not have given how minor it was and quickly it healed. And that he hid the real doctor's report.
  
  It grazed him. What is difficult to understand here?
  
  This isn't Hollywood. A graze wound from a 5.56x45mm round at supersonic velocities doesn't leave a small, easily healed cut; it transfers a portion of the bullet's kinetic energy into the tissue, in a radiating pressure wave that tears, shatters, and emulsifies the surrounding tissue. Even the slightest amount of contact transfers enough energy to cause wounds that take a substantial amount of time to heal, even more so with an ear that is primarily cartilage, which doesn't, itself, heal.
  
  A graze would have resulted in needing reconstructive surgery that would have taken months to heal and would have had visible bruising much longer than his ear bandage was worn. Graze from fragments or debris? Sure, that's a lot different than his claim. And it's at least equally likely that he cut his ear when tackled, which would be consistent with the seen wound as well as the lack of visible scarring or need for reconstructive surgery.
  
  Then it wasn't a graze wound. What if the bullet is 0.1mm further out than would be needed for a "graze"?
  
  You're playing with words. We have video of what happened.
  
  Maybe you'd prefer it was a Sasquatch with a directed energy weapon.
  
  You're playing with words. We have video of what happened.
  
  Not playing with words. The 5.56mm bullet had around 1.8kJ of energy, mostly from velocity. Dumping even a fraction of that into human tissue can cause rather devastating effects, with additional effects from the pressure wave from traveling at supersonic speeds. It's not like in the movies or video games where just getting "winged" is not a big deal.
  
  So even if it's 4mm away? 5mm? 6mm? 7mm? 8? 9?
  
  You argue as if you can be equally injured in a car crash by being a bystander because of the energy of a speeding car. Like, no?
  
  You just like reading what you type, not making sense.
  
  So even if it's 4mm away? 5mm? 6mm? 7mm? 8? 9?
  
  If it were that far away, contact would not happen, and thus no injury. To be clear, a graze or tangential gunshot wound requires contact to occur. The hydrostatic shock occurs only when there is physical contact to allow a transfer of kinetic energy.
  
  You argue as if you can be equally injured in a car crash by being a bystander because of the energy of a speeding car. Like, no?
  
  A key part that you're missing in that comparison is the area over which the contact occurs. So, it would be roughly like a 1956 VW Beetle hitting someone in the ear at 60mph. However, this also isn't quite accurate or the full picture because it would require somehow getting an equivalent ratio of surface area contacting the ear, which would be much greater than ear-sized on the VW because a 5.56mm round is so small, as well as the additional forces exerted because of the sonic blast wave that the bullet causes.
  
  Bullets work by transferring immense amounts of energy to a small surface area. High-velocity bullets (those flying at supersonic speeds, like all modern cartridges that are not specifically designed to be subsonic), have an additional effect of causing hydrostatic shock (some research suggests that this may, to a lesser degree, occur with subsonic rounds as well). What that means is that a component of the sonic blast wave participates in the transfer of energy to tissue (we're big bags of water), causing a radiating pressure wave that evidence shows can cause fractures in bone not impacted by the bullet, as well as damage to nearby internal organs and nerves.
  
  Another great way of understanding the importance of surface area to the damage inflicted by rapid kinetic energy transfer would be Blendo. A battle robot built by the MythBusters guys that, as a "weapon" used a flywheel weighing roughly 100lbs (45kg) that was spun up to around 400RPM. The energy in that flywheel was transferred to the opposing robots in a very small surface area, causing such devastating effects that they were asked to withdraw from the competition.
  
  This is very similar to how bullets work and one of a number of reasons that even a graze from 5.56mm bullet that hadn't first lost a significant amount of its energy is very unlikely. The wound being able to heal in a week with no visible scarring (not to mention suppression of any medical records from being used in the investigation or revealed to the public) makes that possibility even more vanishingly small.
  
  Wow, so when you cut yourself shaving, it bleeds like in the WWE, you go to the ER, and it takes months to heal?
  
  It nicked his ear. He bled a bit. It healed. Besides, he's old, how could you spot a scar among the hair, wrinkles, and moles?
  
  We're big bags of water, but ears are thin flaps of skin. Guess what? That pressure wave probably moved the ear out of the way.
  
  Sheesh, what personal soap opera are you invested in so that you can't see the absurdity of your position?
  
  I understand what they're claiming. That, however, is not what happened. You don't need to get a second doctor to "corroborate" the nature of your injury if your story is true. The first one would have been fine. But they hid that.
  
  And the injury clearly wasn't bad enough to need actual extra consultation.

It's usually the most vile beings that get to live their life to the fullest...

I don't think that's necessarily true. I've had the great joy to know a few exceptionally content people through the years, and while they might not be yucking it up on a yacht somewhere, I also get the distinct impression that they're all around happier and more at peace than the likes of Musk and Trump are. Folks have raised the hypothesis that the ultra-wealthy are just hoarders but wealth instead of trash, hoping that maybe just this next billion will finally bring them contentment, and it never does. I've come to suspect that that hypothesis holds at least some water.
I don't want to start

Any blasphemous rumours

But I think that God

Got a sick sense of humour

And when I die

I expect to find him laughing
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and this is why we aim for centre mass

Yep. Even if Donald has been wearing body armor, I'm not sure his 78 year old probably on blood thinners ass would've been able to take it.
- Even a cheap .223 can penetrate most body armor. Even at 150 yards.
Yea, if that kid would have gone to any form of military basic training MAGA would be gone now. Hell, they may have moved on and become a normal republican populist movement that hated businesses and banks (as the historic norm).

The Tea Party (2008-2009ish) was the first modern populist movement to get mass mind controlled by big money. People were losing their houses in the mortgage crisis, and people were duped into rallying against a mortgage relief program.

The entire relief program was proposed at 700 billion, with 46 billion for mortgage relief ... but republicans got steered and focused at the mortgage relief portion and the Tea Party formed.
- Trump would be a martyr and the movement would be 5x worse.
  
  We'll never know for sure, but some evidence against that is that nobody's ever been able to quite emulate his cult of personality. The republicans who tried were just kinda dweebs and dorks trying to act like the popular kid at school, and those who didn't were boring and uninteresting to Republican voters.
  
  I think this is correct. They don't have a new cult leader to replace the Felon in Chief.

I honestly don't think the gun was ever aimed at Trump. His "wound" was gone basically overnight.

People behind him were killed. The guy just missed.
- Like Trump wouldn't be on board with killing his supporters for a photo op.
  
  But he would never be on board with live ammunition being fired around him, even for a plot. All he cares about is his own orange sack of bones
  
  At risk to himself? Even for a trained precision shooter, guaranteeing a miss is still difficult. Gust of wind picks up at just the right time and the bullet goes into Trump.
  
  Then again, it's Trump, and he might be dumb enough to go for it. Provided he can find a shooter who's also dumb enough. Which he can; there's probably plenty of guys that dumb at any given local range.
  
  He stood back up for his photo op. If you're right and it was a real attempt, he wouldn't have done that.
  
  This is a guy who hid in a bunker when people were protesting.
  
  The shooter was taken out seconds later and I'm guessing Trump either had an earpiece or his bodyguards relayed the fact. That explains why he suddenly stood and posed despite his security detail trying to keep him down.
  
  (He's too dumb to think about a potential second shooter.)
  
  No it doesn't. The secret service would never allow that, and there's no way Trump could overpower them.
  
  Judging by the famous photo, the Secret Service was shielding him with their bodies and trying to drag him away from the scene. That would give them control over his lateral movement but wouldn't prevent him from standing. The agent shielding him doesn't reach above his shoulders, and she'd have a hard time stopping a "265 lb." man from standing while only gripping his waist.
  
  Hanlon's and Occam's razors agree on this one, it's much simpler (and likely more accurate) to blame this on the incompetence of the shooter. Headshots are for videogames, center mass is a much easier target.
Meh. Occam's razor applies here, I think. The head is highly vascular, and even small injuries can produce a visually stunning amount of blood. I don't think it was a fake or a conspiracy; sometimes shit just happens.
- Geriatrics take forever to heal, though, especially when their lifestyle is as atrocious as Trump's.
- The cartilage of the ear takes a long time to heal, yet HitlerPig was walking around fully healed within 2 weeks. He also showed no sign of being injured at all, when a glancing shot like that should have mangled his ear at least a little bit. Yet, it looks perfectly fine now, not even the slightest nick or scar.
  
  Occam's Razor means something slightly different when it comes to HitlerPig. In his case, the most nefarious, dishonest, corrupt story is probably the right one. He was never shot, the whole thing was a hoax.
  
  Depends, because I don't think his cartilage was actually damaged. A glancing shot wouldn't have necessarily done any structural damage at all if the angle was shallow enough. I don't think Donald is competent enough to keep a houseplant alive, I have grave doubts that his team would have been able to effectively stage an assassination attempt without bungling it and actually getting Donald killed or something else real bad. I mean, if you need to believe it was a hoax, don't let me get in the way of a good time, I guess, but sometimes shit really does just happen. Source: 15 years on the ambulance.
  
  The rounds used were high-velocity rifle, not handgun rounds. Were it a handgun round, it could be believable. The greater amount of kinetic velocity leads to much more devastating wounds, even with grazes. He may have been grazed by debris or indirectly by a fragment from a bullet that hit something else, but, that's not the claim.
  
  Source: I've spent a significant amount of my life learning about firearms and I've been next to someone who was hit by a .45 ACP that ricocheted at a shooting range after hitting a rock about 15-20m away. He was hit solidly in the meaty bit of the shoulder at an almost straight-on, vertical angle. Not a graze. The round did not penetrate, fortunately. The wound had minor, superficial lacerations or tears radiating about 1.5x the round diameter and a bruise the size of an orange. Bleeding was easily stopped with a single gauze pad.
  
  Why does that matter? Well, the wound experienced was similar, if not more significant and visible, considering it's a less vascular and bleed-y than an ear. A common .45 ACP FMJ round has about 1/4 the energy of a 5.56x45mm NATO round when it leaves the barrel. The reduction of velocity from the ricochet was extreme, likely below 200ft/s (60m/s), roughly 1/4 of initial velocity, but it still had enough energy to create a similar degree of wounding.
  
  Kinetic energy (KE) is proportional to mass times the square of velocity, meaning that every time velocity doubles, KE quadruples. So, a .45 ACP round traveling at ~1/4 of its velocity posesses ~1/16 of its initial KE (supposing it didn't lose any mass, which it did). That makes it around 1/64th of the KE of the 5.56mm round. The likelihood of a 5.56mm round making little enough contact to transfer less than 1/64th of its energy into a ear, without the pressure wave impacting the surrounding tissue at all is not technically impossible but it is about on the scale of the chances of Ghandi not pulling out nukes in the original Civ.
  
  Add to that the suppression of any medical evidence and it's a pretty clear picture.
  
  I worked in EMS for fifteen years. The amount of damage a bullet does is really a question of how much energy is transferred. In order to transfer energy into tissue, obviously the bullet needs to make contact. Minimal contact means minimal energy transfer; at some point the bullet's just going to shear off the tissue it brushes against and that's that. It's not like a video game where a glancing shot is going to send him spinning through the air like a top and rip his ear off. Especially because the ear can kinda wiggle freely, it's a bit closer to just nicking a paper target.
  
  It's not like a video game where a glancing shot is going to send him spinning through the air like a top
  
  Indeed. The only way that something like that is happening is the nervous system doing it (or tissue ejecting like JFK).
  
  and rip his ear off.
  
  Again, handgun, no, high-velocity rifle, pretty likely. The two act very differently when they contact tissue. An instantaneous transfer of even a fraction of 1.8kJ of energy to tissue is pretty devastating.
  
  It is possible that he was hit but, the minute amount of contact needed to transfer enough energy from round as small as 5.56mm to cause a "cut" without any damage to the surrounding tissue is exceedingly unlikely. The fact that the medical records were not just withheld from the public but even investigators, after which he paraded around bragging about it really makes "he was hit by a bullet" the non-credible scenario.
- It's why wrestlers use real razors. Y'know, some of Trump's friends?

Iirc, back when it happened, there were people from his highschool target shooting team that said he didn't make the team because he wasn't a good shot.

I rewatched the broadcast to confirm, Trump absolutely inadvertently stepped out of the shot right as the shooter pulled the trigger. Trump went from standing with a hand on the podium, to leaning forward on it as he turned his head to his right.

The shooter brought a laser rangefinder which suggests he was aware of at least basic marksmanship fundamentals like bullet drop from gravity. He also had an AR-15, with a red dot and was laying prone with no visual barriers between him and the dais where Trump was about 130 yards away. Even a budget AR shooting basic af ammo can expect to shoot a 4 inch circle at that distance- plenty enough for a headshot.

Trump survived through dumb luck.
- FTFY:
- Just did some quick napkin math. At the low end, the .223 has a muzzle velocity of about 900 yards per second, which, at that distance, means that the bullet made it to Donald in roughly 0.14s. at the high end, muzzle velocity is about 1233 yards per second, meaning it cleared the gap in very nearly .1s even. I did a bit of googling, and it looks like human reaction time at the low end is about 200 ms, BUT can be much lower or even a hair premature if the reaction is the result of a trained, anticipatory response. As such, it seems likely that Crooks' reaction time, rather than 0.2s, was much closer to some negligible value, even when considered from the frame of a bullet's travel.
  
  That means that wherever Donald's head was 0.1-0.15s before the infamous bullet photo was taken is probably very close to what Crooks saw when he pulled the trigger.
- Moral of the story: wait for him to do some stupid pose so you know he'll stand still instead of fidgeting while he talks
I used to participate in International Defensive Pistol Association competitions. I was, honestly, terrible. I'd routinely mangle or just do an overall uninspiring job of the up close shots, and I was hardly as smooth and quick as anyone else there. I just didn't have the money to burn through ammo and time at the range like other folks did. One time, we were doing a series of targets at thirty feet and the spirit came over me and I double tapped two of them right in the jugular notch as smooth as you like. Won't claim it as an achievement because I can't even remotely come close to reproducing it, I'm still not that good of a shot, and I wouldn't have believed I was going to do it if you'd told me ahead of time. I can't explain why or how I did it, just, idk, rolled a twenty that time I guess.
- I once fired a 22 round through the middle of a polo mint without breaking it from 25m away. I framed that shit because likewise, knew that wasn't happening again. That's part of the fun of the sport as a an amateur, occasionally chance does funny things.
  
  Holy crow, I'd have framed it too!

While and head shot is more fatal. He would have been able to land multiple chest shots at that distance. A bullet to the heart would end him, and multiple shots would be difficult to survive.

People forget what a big person Trump is.

Why do you think police are trained to aim center mass