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Its still a shame that I will never recommend this place to anyone I know until the community changes here.
Its a bit chicken and the egg cause we likely need one for the other. But with the users proclivity for bans, and blocks you end up with a user base even smaller and discussion that more feels like a battle to be right most of the time because intellectual superiority is looked up to rather than conversation.
I still think a community of people competing to be the most right in every comment section does not lead to actual community and doesn't even help provide facts or info to most communities when there are not many niches to which people in here can participate in. Objective facts work best not in fandoms but in crafts. Like what glue doesn't melt Styrofoam when doing prop building not which show or game is best.
I may be alone in this but I yearn for "the normies".
a community of people competing to be the most right in every comment section
I think this depends highly on the type of community. (Although clearly I'm doing it to you right now. Sorry.)
Highly political topics and such are the worst, probably. But others where people come because of a shared interest, like a sport or food or animal or something, a hobby, I think tend to be more chill and mellow.
You would think. I still won't go back to the gardening community. And will probably just stop participating in anything around here.
The problem is that there is still to few others than those types. The topic seems secondary. The mellow places are where it's empty.
Maybe it also depends on the topic. But there are always gonna be annoying people everywhere you go in life. 🥲
The topic was how much they hoped my garden withered because I couldn't afford to fully mulch all of it and was saying I was having to constantly weed the edge of my garden.
They proceeded to gleefully wish harm upon me and hardship for not doing or being exactly like them and as I begged for help from others to not feel alone was told I likely deserved it.Yeah people are truly awful everywhere and not working on getting better.
That sucks. I'm sorry that happened =(
It was like that for me on the Marvel Rivals subreddit on Reddit. I didn't like all the smurfs (new accounts made by higher ranked players in lower ranked lobbies) but when I complained about it and said lower ranked or more casual players deserve to have fun, too, a bunch of people diminished my experiences, gleefully said they smurf, it's a skill issue, it's not a real problem (despite me checking enemy user profiles and sure enough, they're all experts at this game with barely any time played and all wins in their competitive matches), just to not play, etc. It's like pro basketball players dunking on little kid community games. They deserve to have fun, too!
Don't have any advice or anything, and what I said may not have made any sense to people who don't play the game, just empathizing on how much the internet sucks sometimes and your comment reminded me of that. Now I'm angry just remembering it lol.
Sorry. But yeah. Don't have an answer but it's a mess for being a new memeber when it feels communities don't care to remember that people have to start somewhere.
Sorry that it happened to you too.
Jesus. That's so obnoxiously mean. Sorry to hear you had this experience. I hope you don't take it to heart when people say things like that to you. It's hard not to, but please don't think their words have any meaning.
🩵 All the best!
Just keep posting and being the type of person you want to see as a community member here. The other site was exactly like you described above for a very long time!
I can't be responsible for changing others. That is an unfair request.
I was paraphrasing (see: paraquote, slang) Ghandi. "Be the change you wish to see in the world".
Yeah, and I am the person I want to be I just don't expect the change.
Me too, but I still prefer this place to reddit. I have the same exact gripe: those that must be the most right. I've just found a lot more of them on reddit than lemmy. I have lost count of the amount of times I start to write something on reddit, then imagine how someone somewhere, from some angle, can decide to be offended if they want to, then just delete the comment. It definitely happens on lemmy too, it's just in my experience it has happened less here, so I have been more willing to type out comments here. It really sucks that this has not been your experience.
Be the change you want to see. Host a instance. Show us how it's done.
Spend money I don't have to open myself to attacks for people I already say I dislike that don't like to told what to do at all.
No.
I should host an instance. About Apache. To learn how to do Apache configs. Then I could host an instance.
Oh wait.
this is a problem with fediverse in general imho.
the tools admins and users have are blunt (defederate or block). with all sorts of content moderation policies and opinions you will inevitably end up either alienated from everyone or surrounded by people that think and talk just like you.
fediverse does offer many advantages... creating a better online "town square" is just not going to be one of them.
I have this insane thought that shorter bans but publicly stated when/why/how-long would be more beneficial to keeping a community aligned when it's all we got. And that it would be harder to abuse and give insight into mods efforts.
But yeah I have said to others I intend to use it more as a link aggregator by effort but not community.
Tool development is one of the things that we're going to have to go that. Thankfully Creative Energy being poured into server software and apps is something that's already happening quite natural even that small user base numbers