Post restored - !196@lemmy.world mods remove meme criticizing locking down !196@lemmy.blahaj.zone as "non relevant"
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Can someone give me a rundown of what happened? I don't understand and I would like some context, please.
Long-term disagreements between the mods of 196 and the admin of Blahaj led to the mods of 196, with the admin's permission, moving to .world instead and locking the previous community with a redirect. The mods of 196 did not consult the community before the move, and many of them feel miffed at this.
I guess now I have questions about what those disagreements were and why any one mod could lock the community and force the move?
Also, if the moderation team didn't agree with admins from Blahaj, what does .world give them that Blahaj didn't? Seems like trolls aren't being curved on .world and it's not as inclusive.
Why are so many instances avoiding Blahaj? What happened there?
Also, I guess I don't understand a lot about the dynamics of the community. But it seems like users are pissed because there was a bait and switch and the mods responsible have doubled down and or just don't want to be involved in advocating for the community they moderate for?
Edit: So, what I gather from the responses to my question is that Ada is an Admin at the Blahaj Zone instance, and the 196 moderation team were not moderating their community except sparingly. Ada tried to open a line of communication to get them to check on and moderate the community more often, or to pursue adding more mods. Neither request seems to have been taken into consideration.
Somewhere along the line this meant that Ada (and possibly other Admins from Blahaj Zone were doing the moderation job, and a conflict arose when people who had received bans contacted the moderation team directly and they reviewed what they had missed.
They then talked amongst themselves and perhaps came to the conclusion that they didn't want to keep the community on BZ. And alluded to such a thing on posts before making the whole thing read only/locking it, and moving over to .world.
The community naturally revolted because they weren't largely involved in the decision. And now some users are completely disenfranchised because their instances aren't federated with .world.
But it can't all be undone (for technical reasons I don't fully understand).
I guess now I have questions about what those do agreements were and why any one mod could lock the community and force the move?
The mod team of 196 as a whole agreed, not just one.
Also, if the moderation team didn’t agree with admins from Blahaj, what does .world give them that Blahaj didn’t? Seems like trolls aren’t being curved on .world and it’s not as inclusive.
Blahaj admins have a history of banning and removing comments in 196 for concerning reasons.
Why are so many instances avoiding Blahaj? What happened there?
Can't speak as to that. I'm not sure what instances are defederated with Blahaj or why.
Also, I guess I don’t understand a lot about the dynamics of the community. But it seems like users are pissed because there was a bait and switch and the mods responsible have doubled down and or just don’t want to be involved in advocating for the community they moderate for?
The mods want to move the community, as a whole, to .world instead of splitting it in two; part of this attempt was in locking the original 196 on Blahaj. That's where a lot of the anger is coming from.
I'm an outsider, and I'm not trans, and I'm on painkillers because I have a dry socket so I'm too stupid to avoid this discussion, but I've seen this screenshot a couple of times now and I haven't seen anyone saying that it was like... a horrible injustice, who identifies as trans?
Or are there other admin abuses besides this? Because I just keep seeing this one screenshot?
I am trans, and fairly active on 196 and if all of these comments occurred on 196? Yeah, both users had it coming, even if I generally get along with both users in other contexts. On serious discussion communities I think there needs to be space for discussion and education. On 196, Spronkus shoulda told you, trans rights and shoot fascists. Or that's my opinion, this whole issue is about which moderation philosophy should be applied to 196.
Then I'm of the opinion that this whole moving thing is so they could let in their friends who were rightfully banned.
Thank you for answering what you could. Seems like the community is rightly upset and now everyone is in damage control mode because things obviously haven't gone to plan.
No offense, but I read through that and I still feel like I missed a lot. I have an example of sort of what happened but none of the history to understand it.
Thank you. That helps a lot. It answers some of my additional questions.