9mo ago

Student was punished for using AI—then his parents sued teacher and administrators

The lawsuit says the Hingham High School student handbook did not include a restriction on the use of AI.
"They told us our son cheated on a paper, which is not what happened," Jennifer Harris told WCVB. "They basically punished him for a rule that doesn't exist."

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/24633700

Case file: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mad.275605/gov.uscourts.mad.275605.8.0.pdf
Case file: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mad.275605/gov.uscourts.mad.275605.13.0.pdf

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I'm guessing they probably have rules against plagiarism, or passing off other people's work as your own.
So then I guess it would be down to whether using AI (without disclosure?) is plagiarism or not
- Most of the larger LLMs state the results of the model stemming from the user’s prompt intellectually belong to the user.
  It’s a massive grey area, and the sum of these kinds of cases are what will define ownership of LLM output for the next ~50 years.
  Don’t get me wrong, kid absolutely did not comply with the spirit of the assignment.
  E: @Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world makes an excellent point:
  If the student hired someone to write their essay and the author assigned all copyrights to the student, it's still plagiarism.
  Who legally owns the work isn't the issue with plagiarism.
  
  The LLMs can claim whatever they like, it holds no weight or value. They are basically advanced plagiarism engines and the law has already made it clear you cannot copyright the output of an LLM.
  This particular case will go nowhere, but there are plenty of legal cases between content creators and AI makers that are slowly moving through the legal system that will go somewhere.
  
  It doesn't matter what the LLM license states. Replace the LLM with a person doing exactly what the LLM does and ask yourself if it is plagiarism.
  If I do your homework for you and I say, "Because you prompted me with the questions, the answers belong to you." That isn't a free 'get out of plagiarism card' for you. What I tell you isn't relevant.
  It's not gray at all.
  Edit: that's weird. I got a personal message but the reply showed up here.
  
  If the student hired someone to write their essay and the author assigned all copyrights to the student, it's still plagiarism.
  Who legally owns the work isn't the issue with plagiarism.
  
  Most of the larger LLMs state the results of the model stemming from the user’s prompt intellectually belong to the user.
  Who cares what they say to avoid being sued for copyright infringement?
This reminds me of a story a friend who is a teacher recently told me: One of his students was so nervous during an oral exam that he could barely form a complete sentence. So the friend of mine, in consultation with the exam board, gave the poor guy a second chance on the same day - that didn't go particularly well either, but was enough to pass. The parents of the nervous student sued because this procedure did not comply with the examination regulations. They won and managed to get the exam repeated a third time - the examination board stayed unchanged. You can perhaps imagine how this went for the student, who was understandably all the more nervous the third time around. In the end, he didn't graduate, not because the examiners were vindictive, but because they had to grade the student purely based on his performance which wasn't good enough because the poor guy couldn't get a coherent sentence together again. If his parents hadn't sued, he would have graduated.
lol AI has written many thousands of words for me at work. the real life skill is how to not get caught using it
- Don't quote Wikipedia, instead quote the citations in Wikipedia.
- Sounds like your employer is lucky...
  
  yea, lucky i even show up, with the bullshit pittance they're calling "wages"
Doesn't seem very oniony?
- I guess you're right in that the headline is not Onion-worthy. But I find "it's not cheating to cheat using a machine, let's sue" a rather creative approach.

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