c/cfb Week 7 Poll
c/cfb Week 7 Poll
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c/cfb Poll Season II
This might be the most excited I've ever been for our community poll, this will be up through Wednesday and I'll post results on Thursday
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Alright, you guys win, I'll take the time to actually put something together. Ended up playing it pretty safe: ::: spoiler Top 25
- Ohio State
- Texas
- Oregon
- Penn State
- Miami (FL)
- Alabama
- Georgia
- Tennessee
- Ole Miss
- Iowa State
- Clemson
- LSU
- BYU
- Oklahoma
- Texas A&M
- Boise State
- Kansas State
- Missouri
- Notre Dame
- Utah
- Indiana
- Pittsburgh
- Illinois
- SMU
- Texas Tech :::
I tried throwing together a computer poll, but it's pretty rudimentary and over-favors teams that have played more games (and won those extra grames):
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Indiana #1? Subscribe
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Taking all bets on how high Vandy gets ranked.
1:1000 1st
1:100 2 to 9th
1:50 10 to 15th
1:25 16 to 20th
1:5 21st to 25th
1:2 Not ranked but receives Votes.
Note: the bank and casino of Milkisklim will only pay out only in Beamer Bucks which is valued at nothing because that's how much preparation SC did for this week.
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My poll this week, I will take questions on everything except Tennessee's ranking:
- Texas
- Ohio State
- Oregon
- Penn State
- Georgia
- Kentucky
- LSU
- Tennessee
- Miami (FL)
- Clemson
- Ole Miss
- Notre Dame
- Iowa State
- alabama
- Michigan
- Oklahoma
- Nebraska
- UNLV
- Army
- Indiana
- Boise State
- BYU
- Navy
- Illinois
- SMU
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My ballot (computer poll). It no longer thinks of Texas as a league of their own, as an Ohio State University is closing the gap due to Texas being on bye last week (thank goodness for that). Everyone's darling Vanderbilt doesn't crack the top 25 but it does have the biggest movement, rising 42 places.
Also, when I was ranking Sam Houston (never thought I'd say that) it made me think of other newcomers to FBS. Looks like Kennesaw State is not listed in the dropdowns for this poll.
::: spoiler Full ranking: | Rank | Change | Team | Record | Points | | ---: | :---: | :--- | :--- | :--- | | 1 | - | Texas | 5-0 | 387 | | 2 | +2 | Ohio State | 5-0 | 372 | | 3 | +2 | Ole Miss | 5-1 | 368 | | 4 | -1 | Alabama | 4-1 | 356 | | 5 | +2 | Indiana | 6-0 | 352 | | 6 | - | Miami (FL) | 6-0 | 342 | | 7 | +27 | Texas A&M | 5-1 | 326 | | 8 | +3 | Penn State | 5-0 | 323 | | T9 | -7 | Notre Dame | 4-1 | 321 | | T9 | +7 | Virginia Tech | 3-3 | 321 | | 11 | +4 | SMU | 5-1 | 314 | | 12 | +2 | Nebraska | 5-1 | 309 | | T13 | -1 | Tennessee | 4-1 | 305 | | T13 | +8 | Clemson | 4-1 | 305 | | 15 | -2 | USC | 3-2 | 303 | | 16 | +18 | Arkansas | 4-2 | 302 | | 17 | +14 | Washington | 4-2 | 299 | | 18 | +4 | Georgia Tech | 4-2 | 292 | | 19 | +25 | Tulane | 4-2 | 291 | | 20 | -4 | Michigan | 4-2 | 288 | | 21 | -3 | Boston College | 4-2 | 286 | | T22 | +18 | Iowa State | 5-0 | 282 | | T22 | +7 | Sam Houston | 5-1 | 282 | | 24 | +16 | Georgia | 4-1 | 278 | | 25 | -17 | Kentucky | 3-2 | 277 | | 26 | +21 | Minnesota | 3-3 | 276 | | 27 | -18 | BYU | 5-0 | 275 | | 28 | +10 | Texas Tech | 5-1 | 272 | | 29 | -19 | Oklahoma | 4-1 | 270 | | 30 | -1 | Duke | 5-1 | 267 | | T31 | +24 | Army | 5-0 | 264 | | T31 | +9 | Arizona State | 4-1 | 264 | | 33 | -1 | UNLV | 4-1 | 262 | | 34 | +18 | Oregon | 5-0 | 261 | | T35 | -3 | JMU | 4-1 | 257 | | T35 | +5 | Connecticut | 4-2 | 257 | | T35 | -12 | South Carolina | 3-2 | 257 | | 38 | +42 | Vanderbilt | 3-2 | 255 | | 39 | -3 | TCU | 3-3 | 251 | | 40 | +17 | Pittsburgh | 5-0 | 248 | | 41 | +23 | Navy | 5-0 | 243 | | 42 | +26 | Houston | 2-4 | 240 | | T43 | -24 | Cincinnati | 3-2 | 237 | | T43 | -5 | Oklahoma State | 3-3 | 237 | | T45 | -26 | LSU | 4-1 | 236 | | T45 | - | Baylor | 2-4 | 236 | | T47 | +26 | Boise State | 4-1 | 234 | | T47 | +3 | North Carolina | 3-3 | 234 | | T47 | +10 | Kansas | 1-5 | 234 | | 50 | -2 | Auburn | 2-4 | 233 | | T51 | -28 | Utah | 4-1 | 231 | | T51 | -28 | Colorado | 4-1 | 231 | | T53 | +4 | Rutgers | 4-1 | 230 | | T53 | -30 | Maryland | 3-2 | 230 | | T53 | +2 | Louisville | 3-2 | 230 | | T53 | +8 | Northern Illinois | 3-2 | 230 | | 57 | -30 | Kansas State | 4-1 | 229 | | 58 | -30 | Illinois | 4-1 | 228 | | 59 | +7 | Toledo | 4-1 | 225 | | T60 | +1 | Arizona | 3-2 | 224 | | T60 | -8 | Florida State | 1-5 | 224 | | 62 | +15 | Texas State | 3-2 | 221 | | T63 | +14 | Syracuse | 4-1 | 220 | | T63 | +9 | California | 3-2 | 220 | | 65 | +31 | West Virginia | 3-2 | 219 | | 66 | +17 | Virginia | 4-1 | 215 | | 67 | +31 | Jacksonville State | 2-3 | 214 | | 68 | -16 | Missouri | 4-1 | 213 | | T69 | -33 | Memphis | 4-1 | 212 | | T69 | -5 | Michigan State | 3-3 | 212 | | T71 | +8 | Louisiana | 4-1 | 211 | | T71 | +2 | South Alabama | 2-4 | 211 | | 73 | +41 | Wisconsin | 3-2 | 209 | | 74 | -14 | Iowa | 3-2 | 208 | | 75 | -6 | Northwestern | 2-3 | 207 | | 76 | +18 | Florida | 3-2 | 205 | | 77 | -32 | Washington State | 4-1 | 203 | | 78 | -3 | Nevada | 2-4 | 202 | | T79 | +4 | San Jose State | 4-1 | 198 | | T79 | +8 | Coastal Carolina | 4-1 | 198 | | 81 | +4 | UCF | 3-2 | 197 | | T82 | -33 | Eastern Michigan | 4-1 | 195 | | T82 | +7 | Oregon State | 4-1 | 195 | | T82 | -16 | ECU | 3-3 | 195 | | 85 | -34 | UNT | 4-1 | 193 | | 86 | +1 | Old Dominion | 1-4 | 189 | | 87 | +11 | Bowling Green | 2-3 | 188 | | T88 | +9 | NC State | 3-3 | 186 | | T88 | +21 | Charlotte | 3-3 | 186 | | 90 | - | Miami (OH) | 1-4 | 184 | | 91 | -30 | Fresno State | 3-2 | 180 | | T92 | -22 | Western Kentucky | 3-2 | 173 | | T92 | -22 | FIU | 2-3 | 173 | | 94 | +20 | Wake Forest | 2-3 | 171 | | 95 | -3 | Troy | 1-5 | 168 | | 96 | +17 | Marshall | 3-2 | 166 | | T97 | -22 | Ohio | 3-2 | 163 | | T97 | +8 | UCLA | 1-4 | 163 | | 99 | +2 | Stanford | 2-3 | 162 | | T100 | +10 | UL Monroe | 4-1 | 161 | | T100 | +6 | Temple | 1-5 | 161 | | 102 | -21 | Liberty | 4-0 | 156 | | T103 | -22 | Georgia Southern | 3-2 | 155 | | T103 | +4 | Massachusetts | 1-5 | 155 | | T105 | -18 | Buffalo | 3-2 | 152 | | T105 | -19 | FAU | 2-3 | 152 | | 107 | +10 | San Diego State | 2-3 | 151 | | 108 | -15 | Mississippi State | 1-4 | 144 | | T109 | -14 | Central Michigan | 3-2 | 143 | | T109 | +10 | Arkansas State | 3-2 | 143 | | 111 | +9 | Hawaii | 2-3 | 141 | | 112 | -12 | New Mexico | 1-4 | 139 | | 113 | +10 | Western Michigan | 2-3 | 137 | | 114 | -10 | Tulsa | 2-4 | 134 | | 115 | -13 | USF | 2-3 | 133 | | T116 | +7 | Colorado State | 2-3 | 129 | | T116 | -13 | Rice | 1-4 | 129 | | 118 | -11 | Louisiana Tech | 1-3 | 124 | | T119 | -8 | Wyoming | 1-4 | 117 | | T119 | +3 | Air Force | 1-4 | 117 | | 121 | -9 | Georgia State | 2-2 | 115 | | T122 | -8 | UTSA | 2-3 | 113 | | T122 | +3 | UTEP | 0-5 | 113 | | 124 | +7 | Akron | 1-5 | 110 | | T125 | +4 | Appalachian State | 2-3 | 105 | | T125 | -7 | New Mexico State | 1-4 | 105 | | T127 | -7 | UAB | 1-4 | 100 | | T127 | +5 | Southern Mississippi | 1-4 | 100 | | 129 | -1 | Utah State | 1-4 | 97 | | 130 | +4 | Ball State | 1-4 | 94 | | 131 | -5 | Kennesaw State | 0-5 | 92 | | 132 | -3 | Purdue | 1-4 | 85 | | 133 | -6 | Middle Tennessee | 1-4 | 81 | | 134 | -1 | Kent State | 0-5 | 61 |
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Texas takes back the #1 spot after the Vandyset. Vandy back in the rankings. Rutgers takes #24
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A quick overview of my methodology. I’m sure you can find contradictions, but I do try to stick to this.
At this point in the season, I try to make the ranking 25% how good I think the team actually is, and 75% what the resume says. As we go on, the resume gets more bias.
A few principles that I try to apply. 1. If you are 5-0 or better, I’ll put you in. It is hard enough to get there, that even with an easier schedule, it should get you ranked. I do this for 2 reasons. First, I want to reward winning. Second, if greater 6 teams never get ranked despite what they do on the field, why bother to say they are apart of the league? Even if all these greater 6 drop a game, I’ll still try to put one or two of them up there, if I can justify it. 2. I try to use a blind resume, where you consider the resume’s content regardless of the name. The biggest effect that this has is that I effectively ignore head to head. You can look at my poll, and complain that I ranked Georgia above Alabama, and cry afoul that Alabama beat Georgia, and should be ahead. I don’t care, because Georgia has a better resume than Alabama. You can make the same complaint against my Texas A&M/Notre Dame ranking. It doesn’t change my results. 3. I value bad losses more than I do good wins. Again, going with Alabama and Georgia, I put more weight on the fact that Alabama lost to Vanderbilt, then I do that Alabama beat Georgia. I value reliability. If you can’t show up for the “easy wins”, then I will punish you much more than I will reward you for showing up for the big games.
I like your reasoning and appreciate the explanation, so please don't interpret this comment as me taking issue with your ballot. I am curious about Missouri at 14 and LSU at 17 though. What on their resumes pushes them up that high, especially considering the bad losses factor? By your logic, it seems like some of the undefeated teams should be ahead of them (especially Indiana given that they have a common opponent with LSU and beat them much more decisively). SMU's absence feels conspicuous also when you have BYU as high as 8.
No, please poke holes in my poll. I spend time on it, but this is the first real year I have actually put pen to paper.
For LSU and Missouri, the cop out answer is that is the 25% of the ballot I give to supposed team quality. Realistically, it shouldn't have that big of an effect though. Those are 2 teams that, after looking at their schedule just now, I was surprised how weak all their opponents were . I feel a bit bad, because using my metrics, they should be lower. Maybe 3-5 spots each, some where in that range. The good news is, at least LSU will have a chance to make a point this weekend against Ole Miss. That game will make a much bigger difference than me re-evaluating.
Indiana I still feel fine on. Their schedule hasn't been impressive. I think the Nebraska game in 2 weeks is the first real challenge they will face. If they perform well, they will see a jump.
SMU was on the short list to get ranked, but with my rule of ranking 5-0 teams, they got cut. Kansas state is the lowest ranked one loss team in my ranking, and I would take them over SMU.