1y ago

Intel's CPU instability and crashing issues also impact mainstream 65W and higher 'non-K' models — damage is irreversible, no planned recall

www.tomshardware.com

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I used to use nothing but Intel every time I built a new gaming PC. My last build in early 2021, I went with AMD 6900, and I've been real happy with it. I had been planning on going back to Intel for my next build, but this has spooked the shit out of me.
- I honestly don't understand why you'd go back to Intel these days. Performance is only comparable if Intel chips guzzle like twice the wattage, and they'll make sure you have to also change your mobo by conveniently switching sockets every two years. What's the upside of going Intel?
- I mean, high tech manufacturers have products with issues. Even recently AMD chips were frying due to bad motherboard firmware this generation.
  What matters is how well the company responds to the issue, how fast and easy their recall of the defective parts is, and
  Sorry, I've just been told Intel isn't doing a recall and has told everyone to just talk to the support chatbots, which will totally not reject your RMA request this time they swear.
  So uh nevermind, don't buy Intel.
- Pretty much the same here. Switched to AMD after Heartbleed/Spectre. Was torn between AMD or giving Intel another shot in my next build, up until a few weeks ago when this news broke. It's going to take alot for me to consider Intel again.
I suspect there are going to be many lawsuits all over the globe about this. The situation is so bad and so expensive Intel has decided to weather all those lawsuits and class actions instead of doing a recall. That suggests to me odds are everything they have made since the 13th Gen is soon for an early tech graveyard.
- Obviously did the maths where lawsuits would cost less than a recall
  
  recall, immediately foot the bill and still have to fix something they probably haven't fix yet. (the article mention maybe microcode update in August. ) taking lawsuits, they can drag it on and buy themselves time to figure out how to deal with it.
  the legal side thing is, unless the claimant can prove that intel "knew" about this and still selling the broken item, there is not much they can do about it other than going through warranty process and get a replacement. However, now many outlet prove that to be a case from small companies to big data centers, they can't keep selling those units as if they are not broken. Some thing needs to be done properly(like as MS for a mandatory update if detect such CPU or work with MB for BIOS update with a feature block) from their legal dept and make sure new buyers have ways to mitigate it.
Thank you Microsoft, forcing everyone to buy new CPUs just to be able to run their latest iteration of Windows.
- Wat. This has nothing to do with Windows 11 system requirements.
  
  Windows required CPU's to have certain extensions/instructions to use the newest version, which might have required buying a new CPU and thus getting one of the affected ones. However, I don't think it's reasonable to blame Microsoft for this.
- Joke's on MS, I'm happy that it doesn't nag me to upgrade.

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