"We need a mixture of Capitalism AND Socialism" - BULLS#*T | Hakim
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so all you did was oversimplify (aka strawman) an argument about capitalism and socialism intertwining, and talk about how that's contradictory.
Except you failed to touch on any of the topics that people actually argue make european cities more livable and comfortable.
You just go on a monologue about basic ideas of capitalism and communism (which is different from socialism) like you just took a freshman class in economics and think you're enlightened. Pretty bad video.
If this was a troll 🧌 comment. Good effort, you met your quota. If this was an honest opinion, read this to understand the limitations of social democracy. This was an overview by Hakim. If you want a more detailed understanding, check out some of his linked videos.
If I wanted a detailed understand I would stay far away from this dude. The article you linked is more nuanced, but I'm not arguing about that.
Talking about the flaws of some hypothetical is completely useless when it's so clear that many other european countries succeed in ways that the US completely ignores. You can waffle on about macro-economics all you want, but it's practically totally irrelevant because you're not getting anything done. Meanwhile EU countries are busy building efficient public infrastructure.
All that matters is that we do better, and debating about why one ideology is imperfect while failing to offer a better way of making progress is a complete waste of time
Where was the straw man? I've seen this argument a thousand times when discussing politics and there's never any clarification on what they mean. Socialism is the means of production being owned by the workers, if you think that that's communism then I don't know what to tell you. It feels like you barely got past the introduction before deciding to stop watching, because he explains directly and in plain language how they are incompatible systems (the background of socialism and capitalism is an essential part)
Socialism is the means of production being owned by the workers, if you think that that's communism then I don't know what to tell you.
Yes, that is communism. In communism also, workers control the means of production. Socialism is supposed to be the transitionary stage - where a revolution has happened, a post-revolutionary state has been built, but a classless society has not yet been achieved. A communist state is supposed to be a quasi-utopia where all the contradictions of capitalism have been overcome; there is no class, no private property, no religion, and so on.
Or at least this is what the word communism means in Marxist theory. Others may use it differently.
so all you did was oversimplify (aka strawman) an argument about capitalism and socialism intertwining, and talk about how that's contradictory.
Except you failed to touch on any of the topics that people actually argue make european cities more livable and comfortable.
You just go on a monologue about basic ideas of capitalism and communism (which is different from socialism) like you just took a freshman class in economics and think you're enlightened. Pretty bad video.
If this was a troll 🧌 comment. Good effort, you met your quota. If this was an honest opinion, read this to understand the limitations of social democracy. This was an overview by Hakim. If you want a more detailed understanding, check out some of his linked videos.
If I wanted a detailed understand I would stay far away from this dude. The article you linked is more nuanced, but I'm not arguing about that.
Talking about the flaws of some hypothetical is completely useless when it's so clear that many other european countries succeed in ways that the US completely ignores. You can waffle on about macro-economics all you want, but it's practically totally irrelevant because you're not getting anything done. Meanwhile EU countries are busy building efficient public infrastructure.
All that matters is that we do better, and debating about why one ideology is imperfect while failing to offer a better way of making progress is a complete waste of time
Where was the straw man? I've seen this argument a thousand times when discussing politics and there's never any clarification on what they mean. Socialism is the means of production being owned by the workers, if you think that that's communism then I don't know what to tell you. It feels like you barely got past the introduction before deciding to stop watching, because he explains directly and in plain language how they are incompatible systems (the background of socialism and capitalism is an essential part)
Yes, that is communism. In communism also, workers control the means of production. Socialism is supposed to be the transitionary stage - where a revolution has happened, a post-revolutionary state has been built, but a classless society has not yet been achieved. A communist state is supposed to be a quasi-utopia where all the contradictions of capitalism have been overcome; there is no class, no private property, no religion, and so on.
Or at least this is what the word communism means in Marxist theory. Others may use it differently.