Corruption, treason in Ukraine won't be tolerated, Zelenskiy says
Corruption, treason in Ukraine won't be tolerated, Zelenskiy says
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Corruption, treason in Ukraine won't be tolerated, Zelenskiy says
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It’s surprising seeing so much Ukraine hate in one comments section. Did something major happen that changed public opinion?
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which by some weird thought process becomes a pro-Russian position.
I am a communist and the prevailing attitude in most circles I am in is not an explicitly pro-Russian one, it's just not explicitly pro-Ukraine either. There is a also an underlying understanding of the reasons why the war started. Just because you don't support one side does not mean you have to 100% uncritically support the opposing side. The sooner we stop thinking of everything in black/white terms of Team A vs Team B, we will be a lot better off.
Now there are those who have nostalgia for the USSR, which is not the modern Russian Federation, but it's fairly niche. Usually people understand that modern Russia is not the soviet union. There are the patsocs too, but we don't really claim them.
I am not the Official Spokesman of Communism, but those are generally the attitudes I have seen in most of my circles.
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They're not people, they're CCP and Kremlin LLM bots.
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Communists are very against fascist Russia. It's just a small totalitarian-minded group masking as communists here who support Russia or some honeypot/psyop
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This is lemmy.ml, which is full of clueless tankies who confuse modern fascist Russia with the Soviet Union and love to consume Russian and Chinese propaganda. Anything "Western" is automatically bad and evil (those damn Anglos or something) and since Ukraine is backed by NATO, it has to be the bad guy. Take a wild guess at what the ".ml" means.
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It's actually Mali, but they say it stands for Marxist-Leninist
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I guess what changed is that you are not on reddit anymore where nations advertise their propaganda. Ukraine government declared martial law, they are basically a dictatorship.
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Public opinion only gets more positive for Ukraine with each of these high level corruption arrests.
Tankies and dumbasses, think it proves their point that Ukraine will continue to be corrupt.
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Won't just be tolerated. It will be widely embraced, just as it has been.
Thanks t shirt guy.
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Looks like the Russians have arrived
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Lol. OK.
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This guy is equally trash than Putin
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Idk about that - one has tried to get into EU and fight corruption, the other voted to devour his neighbouring country for increasingly petty reasons.
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And how might that one be?
Because from an outsider perspective he seems to be doing alright and anecdotally a Ukrainian man I know says the people around him like Zelenskyy
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I'm not going to take a hard stance here cause I don't think a side by side comparison with Putin is a useful conversation to have, but I want to point out a couple things that may add some nuance to what you've heard before.
- Since 1991, Ukraine has been in an increasingly precarious geopolitical position, with many differences among it's population and political leadership about how to proceed. One could argue that Zelensky ended up stuck between a rock and a hard place, but at the end of the day his fumbling around and repeated motions towards joining NATO were bad political moves that nearly forced (kinda, maybe not forced idk) Russia's hand into a military action. Even if going to NATO was definitively the correct choice (weird thing to think, tbh), he managed doing so incredibly poorly.
- Be aware that Ukraine has had a lot of division among the populaton about whether the country should be Western/EU aligned or Russian aligned. There are many historical and cultural reasons for different regions, communities and individuals to have their particular views (like any political stance). Consider that if you spoke with a Ukrainian person somewhere outside of Eastern Europe, and used the English language, they are probably going to have a pro-western, pro-zelensky viewpoint. You probably won't hear much from Russian speaking Ukrainians who wouldn't prefer to emigrate to "the West", and support Ukrainian alignment with Russia.
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Plenty of russian likes putin too, they are victim of propaganda. I'm sure these Ukrainians between 18 and 60 who want to leave the country but they can't don't like their government much.
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Really? He's equally as bad as the guy responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths due to invading a few neighbouring countries?
Not denying that Ukraine and Zelensky have their fair share of issues but I reckon saying they're just as bad as Putin is more than a little bit disingenuous.
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Like I mentioned in my other comment, I think that both leaders can and should be criticized independently, a comparison between the two is not useful.
Neither leader is socialist, so in my opinion, neither truly has the best interest of their country's working class at heart. There could be some observation and speculation about how the possible outcomes of the conflict could promote socialist aims, but that is still independent of both guy themselves.
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Does it makes a difference if you kill one person or 100? For charts maybe but you are still a murderer even if you kill a bunch. All politicians have blood in their hands, they don't fight their wars, we do it for them and we get forced to do it. Ukraine is under martial law, males between 18 and 60 can't leave the country.
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Ukraine has come a long way in fighting their corruption issues (which were in part caused by russian loyalists). I really hope they can kick out Putin quick and then join the EU.
https://greenwald.substack.com/p/article-on-joe-and-hunter-biden-censored
Seem like other states fueled the corruption too