YSK that apart from not having a car and voting, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat.
YSK that apart from not having a car and voting, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat.
Red meat has a huge carbon footprint because cattle requires a large amount of land and water.
https://sph.tulane.edu/climate-and-food-environmental-impact-beef-consumption
Demand for steaks and burgers is the primary driver of Deforestation:
https://e360.yale.edu/features/marcel-gomes-interview
If you don't have a car and rarely eat red meat, you are doing GREAT 🙌🙌 🙌
Sure, you can drink tap water instead of plastic water. You can switch to Tea. You can travel by train. You can use Linux instead of Windows AI's crap. Those are great ideas. But, don't drive yourself crazy. If you are only an ordinary citizen, remember that perfect is the enemy of good.
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The single best thing you can do for the climate is not existing. The next best thing is not having kids. The lifetime of consumption of a person is out of the equation without that person. Until we figure out how to live sustainably on this earth, overpopulation is a real problem.
Edit: To be clear, I want you to still exist with us in this world. Especially since I don't believe in any kind of afterlife. I'm just stating a tough truth with no clear action statement, besides maybe figuring put how to live truly carbon-neutral. Some things are just a catch-22.
You first, buddy.
If not, this is just a slippery slope argument to "those other people shouldn't exist/have babies". That's just the door to eco-fascism.
I dunno, can’t it still be a good thing to put this option into the zeitgeist, in an otherwise pro-natal by default society?
Even though I know that on an intellectual level having kids is a choice, it still feels like a big adulting checkbox. That feel may be biological, but it’s influenced by society too.
Im sorry if it makes me an ecofascist, but that Trailer park welfare mom with 6 kids and her 4 baby daddies that have 2 kids each of their own are a problem.
and there's plenty of other cultures with a similar problem of having too many kids and not being able to provide for any of them.
*those are real problems, and people arent insane for criticising them. *
not to mention more of then than not, those kids grow up poor and have miserable lives, who go on to repeat what their parents did. starting the cycle all over again.
Nobody is saying people cant have kids, but there's a line of whats reasonable. This isn't the middle ages where you have a gaggle of kids because you need manual labor for the farm and you expect half of them to die before they reach 20.
Oh, so you get to decide who gets to have kids and how many? And the "trailer park welfare mom" is your problem? Like, the straw(wo)man you made up with ingredients from classism, sexism and eugenics?
Yea, that makes you a regular fascist. The "eco" is just the excuse.
And notice it's the woman who is the centre of this made up problem. Not the dads. Not the poverty, not the system or lack of access to birth control options.. Wonder why he didn't bring up the Nazi billionaire with his hareem he keeps in his million dollar compound...
No it's the loose woman in a trailer park.
You can have honest and valid concerns about overpopulation. But you aren't going to get any respect from me if it comes out of your mouth like that.
I mean, the "I'm sorry if it makes me an ecofascist, but" line was a dead giveaway from the start.
First mistake was assuming I was looking for respect from a comment section on the internet.
Well if that was the first mistake in my comment, seeing how it's the last thing I said, then I think I rest my case.
You're right, I Unintenitonally used a straw man argument. and what did you do, turn around and you used one right back, insenuiating that I think I get to decide who can reproduce.
give me a fucking break.
I'm not calling out any single group, but speaking broadly about all humans. How does that jump to "those other people"?
I mean maybe. A lot of people today aren't having children bc of the general state of things and concerns around climate factor into that