Trump says he’ll withhold money from New York if Mamdani becomes mayor
Trump says he’ll withhold money from New York if Mamdani becomes mayor
Democrat says Trump has ‘betrayed’ the ‘working people that he ran a campaign to empower’
Donald Trump has said that he will withhold funding for New York City if presumptive Democratic mayoral nominee Zohran Mamdani becomes mayor after November’s general election and doesn’t do the “right thing.”
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Can someone share some insight with us non Americans, how close are you to a civil war? Between the LA protests and this it seems very imminent
Not very close, despite the online rhetoric. Life continues and our feudal lords play their games.
If things continue to get worse and another lunatic succeeds Trump, I think talk of secession will start to gain more traction in the West. But even then, it would take something really major (and not something the Lemmy politics crowd considers major, but something that actually snaps average liberals out of their comas) to garner enough support for it to actually occur.
Western secession would be an uphill battle; it's just as likely we'd lose an armed conflict with the rest of the country, and an all-out war would be absolutely terrifying.
I mean they’re arresting citizens with brown skin now so not too long before being a democratic registered voter is a crime.
It will come, a lot of us are anticipating it. For now the important thing is that we cannot give them reason to start massacring people.
The fascist uses debate to waste time. The resistance uses that time to waste the fascist's time. The regime got a lot done in 6 months, but we're still on here communicating freely. I can still go to the store, buy candles, paper, glass bottles, foam, gasoline, storm matches, lighters, nails, hammers, tape, twine (which actually makes me wonder why do I not have rope?).
The problem with the fascist mindset is that it will reach a point where they see everyone as a threat. And the goal is for everyone to be a threat by then.
Not anywhere close, in my opinion. People have these ideas that only right wingers have guns and red state vs. blue state but my conservative relatives who live in the country and hunt are afraid to go to cities. They ask me all the time if I’m nervous living in one and there’s a school bus stop by my house where kids get dropped off.
A related point is that in the last Civil War, there was a somewhat blurry but pretty clear regional divide. Now, it’s an urban vs. rural divide. I live in Orleans Parish (aka county) in Louisiana and we went 82% for Harris/Waltz, roughly the same as Manhattan. I’m pretty sure California had more Trump voters than Texas. If a gun brawl breaks out, it’s going be local and contained.
Also, what’s Meal Team Six gonna do in a real battle? Most Trump voters are like 60+ years old and watch Fox News all day. Nobody wants the smoke.
The active duty military is already in 3 border states with arrest/search powers in what is called a militarized zone. They claim it is border states but... the actual places they are stationed are not just at the Southern border.
https://www.npr.org/2025/05/06/g-s1-63778/military-border-zone-posse-comitatus-explained
I think people are more pissed off and divided than they have been in a very long time. It's hard to say how close we are to a civil war, though. There's been a lot of propaganda for a long time saying "violence is not the answer" (even though sometimes it is), and "violence has no place in our system of government" (even though the government abuses its own monopoly on violence to imprison and kill innocent, peaceful people).
It feels like the media in the US is less reliable than it's ever been in my lifetime, and would probably suppress as much as possible any information that would support open rebellion.
I am very skeptical of the notion we are anywhere near an actual shooting war despite all the turmoil. Both sides would have waaaay too much to lose, especially red states, which derive huge amounts of funding from blue states (basically, blue states provide federal revenue while red states tend to use it up).
At the moment at least, people have too high a degree of comfort to actually get off their asses and start physically fighting. Things would probably have to get a lot worse before we really see that happen.
There likely won't be bloodshed until the president is assassinated.
Still seem very unlikely to start a war (plus, given his track record of would-be assassins, they'd probably be right wing anyhow).
That won't matter. It could be Don Jr doing it live and on camera and it would still get spun an an anti-fa trans brown immigrant leftist plot and a certin 40% would believe it with their orange little hearts.
Not so sure about that, some certainly would, but even if it was disregarded by everyone, people are way too comfortable and complacent to give up their relative safety to start an actual war.
Politicians have already been assassinated. The ones from minnesota.
I predict with immigration crack downs we'll eventually see some more resistance to that. At some point, either by ambush or chance occurrence, ICE agents will be attacked and possibly killed. Trump will horrifically overstep in his response. Then it will just be escalating responses.
There are only nine meals between mankind & anarchy. -Alfred H. Lewis
There will be no war because there's no one to fight it. The organizations that an armed resistance might coalesce around simply don't exist, and Trump's camp is entrenched enough to easily strangle any nascent movement in the crib as soon as it begins to arm itself.