Federation has just solidified the fact that there is no saving the West
From all the concern trolling I see in the other instances it's clear that there's no winning over these people. Everything is "Kremlin propaganda" to them. I do think a lot of chapos did go a little overboard with the PPB, but even thoughtful responses were met with the "hateful rhetoric" and "Kremlin talking points" BS. As always, it is to the Global South we must look to for any hope in the future...
I was extremely polite in that lemm.ee thread, admitted we could stand to tone it down a bit, even called out a rude post from one of our own, and I only got hostility from them in response. There's literally nothing we can do to not be called wreckers
There was a surprising amount of hostile replies aimed at HB users... whereas HB users themselves were fairly constructive IMO. Even one post by a HB user calling for defederation was worded much calmer compared to some of the .ee instance natives