Signal is a secure messenger that is widely touted as one of the best options. This Signal review shows you the pros and cons.
"When you use Signal, your data is stored in encrypted form on your devices. The only information that is stored on the Signal servers for each account is the phone number you registered with, the date and time you joined the service, and the date you last logged on."
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There isn't any audit on whatsapp's side. So you are trusting they are running the code they tell you they run on their servers.
So it's not just about metadata, I wouldn't trust facebook not to have some kind of access to the content of the messages. Which is much worse.
Also, Whatsapp is Facebook right ? Not really an amazing track record when it comes to privacy.
They said they implemented the Signal protocol but you still have to trust them to be doing so.
I think that's what the person you are responding to was essentially saying, we do not know for sure what Whatsapp does.
Well now you are really insinuating a conspiracy inside Facebook. That may be happening and that would be bad.
But I’m not talking about anything like that. I’m really only focusing on what Facebook openly says what WhatsApp is doing, and monetizing. And that’s exactly about the same data that we give Signal under the flag of open source and freedom. There’s no difference, except that in the case of WhatsApp I know the business model, and for signal I don’t.
That information is easily found with a web search, so there is no need to cast aspersions. It's funded by Brian Acton's "activist" funding (interest-free loans of $100 million+ total to Signal Foundation over the years). I'd guess Acton used it as a huge tax write-off the year he sold WhatsApp to Facebook.
Other revenue sources include voluntary user donations and grants from many free press organizations whose members rely on Signal. Some years they report positive net income, and other years they report negative.
All the code, including what runs on their servers and in their apps, so you don't need to take their word for anything. You can compile the signal client from source if you like: https://github.com/signalapp
Maybe, but I find it more likely to be true than false. My overarching takeaway is that if you actually care about the secrecy of a communication, don't use signal, use gpg.