Bloomberg: Apple targets 2028 release date for its own electric vehicle
Bloomberg: Apple targets 2028 release date for its own electric vehicle
Project Titan, the Apple electric car project, has been underway since 2015. But the project has faced numerous delays and...
Bloomberg: Apple targets 2028 release date for its own electric vehicle::Project Titan, the Apple electric car project, has been underway since 2015. But the project has faced numerous delays and...
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You can 100% just look to Tesla to see what will happen. Tesla has been following the Apple model ("but on cars") since the beginning.
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Proprietary connectors? ✔️
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Walled garden of accessories? ✔️
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Blocking independent repairs? ✔️
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Highly integrated experience? ✔️
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Sleek and different, but not necessarily good? ✔️
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Reality Distortion Field? ✔️
Well, at least the upcoming Apple car will have perfect panel alignments.
You hope.
I agree mostly but Tesla doesn't have proprietary connectors anymore and the US is actually in the process of adopting the Tesla connector (NACS) as the new standard.
Tesla tried to make it a standard before CCS (the current standard) existed and it was refused in favor of a much worse one.
They also don't have a "walled garden of accessories" and if you look around you'll find a massive market of 3rd party accessories.
I was referring to the chargers (home and other). I know there's a rich history, but I also know that it wasn't being released free and clear when CCS was being developed.
I acknowledge that they are now releasing NACS to the public. In other news, Apple is now using using USB-C. These may or may not be related.
I was referring to the chargers (home and other)
The chargers are not proprietary either. That's kinda the point of the switch to NACS. Home chargers have always worked with J1772 vehicles with a simple adapter. Superchargers are slowly being made available to all vehicles.
In other news, Apple is now using using USB-C. These may or may not be related.
Not at all related. Apple was forced by the EU. Tesla, I'm not really sure why they suddenly decided to open it but there is another OEM that was already using NACS connectors in their prototypes (before NACS was a thing) and they organized a change.org petition to open it that received around 44k signatures 4 months prior. That is my best guess.
I personally think that Tesla plan is to forcefully change the IRA bill that mandate CCS connector on all federally funded charging station.
With this bill, Tesla could lose their charging network advantage in the medium term, or even worse, be burdened by an obsolete "non-standard" in the long term.
~6 months ago, they were completely proprietary. It's being opened up now, but it doesn't change the history. Tesla home chargers would not work on anything else. The cars came with an adapter to allow them to use J1772 chargers. The adapters to use a Tesla level 1/2 charger on a J1772 car are still hard to find, and mostly from sketchy sources.
Tesla was also forced to adopt (or at least become compatible with) CCS2 in Europe. It's not unreasonable to think that it could happen in the US. Releasing NACS puts them ahead of the curve rather than behind.
It's being opened up now, but it doesn't change the history.
We weren't talking about the history. Tesla is only a few years old. Apple is decades old and continued using proprietary connectors until they were literally forced to stop by the government.
Tesla home chargers would not work on anything else.
They've always worked on whatever you plugged them into.
The adapters to use a Tesla level 1/2 charger on a J1772 car are still hard to find, and mostly from sketchy sources.
They're not.
It's not unreasonable to think that it could happen in the US.
Yes it is. Because the US is adopting NACS.
Releasing NACS puts them ahead of the curve rather than behind.
Apple never considered the curve.
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