What do you think the solution to selling progressive politics to young men is ?
What do you think the solution to selling progressive politics to young men is ?
I think progressives never thought about this because we banked on immigration and demographic change allowing us to win culturally and electorally but the issue is immigrants tend to be overwhelmingly male, that is how Trump won actually he won over a lot of Hispanic,Black,Asian and indigenous men who feel humiliated by a new culture, economy and world.
So what can we do rhetorically and policy wise to win more young men over ?
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I don't follow the media and the debate where you live, but over here left leaning politicians and media tends to frame it as: women, minorites etc have a problem. Men are the problem.
You're basically pushing any undecided man over to the right.
liberal politicians and liberal MSM frame it that way, because they have nothing else to offer but toxic culture wars.
So we should lie?
Men are the problem. The patriarchy, the racism, the discrimination? Men.
And if you are too braindead to understand this, you're too far gone anyway.
I have more respect for open misandry than you might expect, but if your emotions are preventing you from crafting worthwhile politics, remove yourself from the situation.
The calm, reasonable people are talking, and histrionic performance like this is a step away from panicking.
Your trauma response may be valid, but that does not mean it is productive.
Yes, I am telling you to calm the fuck down.
Men are the problem. The patriarchy, the racism, the discrimination? Men.
Ultra rich men are the problem. We're losing a class war.
You can't have a post like this and then wonder "Why do so many men go to the right?"
Maybe men are sick of being painted with a broad brush. We all have our own thoughts, beliefs and feelings.
“the group that lived through obscene levels of violence and abuse throughout dozens of centuries is incorrectly (that part is true) labeling all members of said group as abusers, let me join the group advocating for more abuse” - how the hell does one justify this unhinged statement is beyond me. I would like to clarify, I completely disagree with the comment you replied to, I think it’s deeply incorrect and unfair, in addition to ignorant, but that’s really not grounds forresorting to fascism and treating women as animals. Because if that justification of a minor uneducated subgroup being ignorant was honest, the extreme on the right are soo much more evil.
Let me clarify: I am not advocating to join the right. I am furnishing an explanation why SOME men join the right. Like I said in my earlier post, it's very sickening to be painted with such a broad brush. Some of us are moralistic and considerate and it's annoying to just be treated as a monolithic entity. "You are a man, therefore you are evil" reeks of original sin. I prefer to be judged by my own deeds instead of the deeds of those I share a gender with.
Troll grade: C-.
Does Trump pay you by the hour or per post?
I'm not payed, I just don't see a reality where we can improve the world and not mention the hundreds of years of oppression by men at the same time, which, as you already said, will drive away the republicans. So you really gotta start thinking „should we ignore the obvious problem why woman are to this day fighting for human rights so we can find a compromise with Nazis?” and my answer is obviously no.
You should be paid because you're basically campaigning for the republicans.You don't drive away any core republican voter, they would never vote D. You drive away the ones who voted democrat last election.
You're conflating a lot of things here
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