Russian Negotiations 101. My first offer? You surrender everything, submit to enslavement, and completely disarm. Final offer. What's the point of talking to these nihilist barbarians?
? nobody mentioned Israel. Well - you did, but not sure why. I take that back - I have an idea why. I'm sure I'm going to regret responding to a 2d old burner account - but, here we are.
right. Well - we're not talking about Israel at all here, sorry. I'm sure there's lots of space to discuss it not in an explicitly Ukraine themed thread.
IDK, really. True that NATO doesn't want direct involvement and wants Ukraine to kick Putin's ass. But it begs the question: is Russia a proxy for China or we just force the interpretation of the proxy war onto reality?
a proxy war is an armed conflict where at least one of the belligerents is directed or supported by an external third-party power
So the Ukraine war fits squarely in that definition. Other examples I found cited online were Korea, Vietnam, and the Soviets in Afghanistan - all of which have a major power as one of the direct belligerents